Talk:Aviation Traders Carvair

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Wreckage sites?[edit]

It is believed that the remains of the 7th Carvair still remain on a sand and gravel bar in the Chandalar River near Venetie, Alaska. The cockpit section of the 8th Carvair, CF-EPV remains near the former Halesworth Airfield in Suffolk, England,

Anybody know the coordinates for these sites? --24.21.148.155 (talk) 00:23, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an interseting website: http://www.ruudleeuw.com/search116.htm. It has the plane from Alaska somewhere further down. Quatzalcoatl (talk) 07:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Survivors[edit]

"There was just one airworthy example as of April 2008. The Zambian registered 9J-PAA, the 21st and final Carvair built was in South Africa with Phoebus Apollo Aviation, although now removed from the Zambian register the owner plans to return it to the skies for airshows. The second (N89FA / "Miss 1944", the 9th Carvair) is based in Denison, Texas, and flies with Gator Global Flying Services on ad-hoc cargo charters throughout the United States."

Doesn't make sense. If there's just one, there can't be a second... Could the author clarify please? JohnB57 (talk) 16:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I reinstated my earlier deletion due to an error on my part. It was Carvair 16 that was destroyed in a crash, not Carvair 18 (both once flew for Dominicana, hence my confusion). Unfortunately, the excerpt of the book I found online cuts off right at the point at which the fate of Carvair 18 was about to be revealed. If I can find this book in its entirety I will update.

orca99usa (talk) 18:49, 07 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

18/HI-172 was withdrawn for use in the 1970s and then broken up according to my 1991 piston aircraft book. MilborneOne (talk) 20:27, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Even if it was broken up for scrap, the possibility still exists that perhaps the forward section of the fuselage was repurposed as the previous poster suggests. I doubted that the entire aircraft was saved, since it was associated with a hotel rather than being a stand-alone night club. I am reluctant to remove this reference until we are certain, even though it is only speculation. The Carvair book I was referencing (The ALT-98 Carvair: A Comprehensive History of the Aircraft and All 21 Airframes by William Patrick Dean) is quite expensive. Hard copies are selling for over $100 on eBay, and even the Kindle version is $40. The author did extensive research into the history and fate of each airframe. I was hoping that his account would be definitive, but I have yet to read the complete account of airframe #18. I even checked my local public library, to no avail. orca99usa (talk) 00:37, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the Dean book is viewable on Google Books including part of the story of eighteen: p299 is missing, p.300 the wings were removed in November 1978 and the fuselage transported to the Embajador Hotel on Avenue Sarasorta in downtown Santo Domingo. It was to become a restaurant but it didnt happen and became a nightclub "DC-4 Piano Bar" instead. It was messed about with the engine cowlings mounted on the roof and the outer wings were mounted vertically, surrounded by old buses Dean describes it as "a transportation junkyard" It still existed in 1995. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MPr2FmWyZFoC&printsec=frontcover MilborneOne (talk) 08:32, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I found that excerpt. It cut off tantalizingly close to giving me the final fate of Carvair #18. I appreciate the assistance. orca99usa (talk) 21:50, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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References to numbers built[edit]

Any references to complete list of numbers built ? Cheers. agljones(talk)19:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]