Talk:Aubrey Beardsley

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this is book is related to romaniticism — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.86.99 (talk) 11:31, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I found this on Internet site:

"Although a member of the homosexual and gay clique that included Oscar Wilde and the English aesthetes, Beardsley was basically heterosexual--though perhaps his only female partner had been his adored elder sister, Mabel (who may also have borne his miscarried child)". --> is this incestuous relation true ???? NEVER TRUST THE INTERNET lolxxx

Potential Copyright Violation?[edit]

The passage quoted in the above unsigned post (and also included in the article itself) appears to have been lifted word-for-word from [1] (which reproduced it, with permission, from a series of books).

I'm unsure as to what to do in cases like these, so I'm leaving a note here for someone else to look at. — g026r 06:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A single sentence from a book? Probably should be cited to the book if you know its title, but it is about as certainly fair use as it's possible to be. - Smerdis of Tlön 12:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The book's name is listed in the above link. I'm not familiar with the standards for fair use, so I suppose I approached this more from an academic/plagarism standard, where copying someone else's exact words without marking that it's from somewhere else is a no-no. — g026r 17:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and added the book to the references section. Smerdis of Tlön 19:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More important than this stupid discussion about copyright violation, is to find out if the sentence is true or not!

According to Matthew Sturgis in his biography published in 1998, this allegation comes from a line from the Frank Harris memoir "My Life and Loves". As quoted by Stugis the line is "It's usually a fellow's sister who gives him his first lessons in sex. I know it was Mabel...who first taught me." Depending on how much you trust Frank Harris and how much you read into this line it may or may not be true. [Jeremy Horey 4/9/06]

Beardsley lived in Muriel House in Exeter Road, near the Square in Bournemouth. The house was demolished during the refurbishment of the town centre in the 1980's or 90's but there is a Blue Plaque on the site. I made a start at categorising this but will finish at a more reasonable hour when I am more awake (unless I am beaten to it). Britmax 23:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am new to Wikipedia, so pardon me if this is not the right place to ask: but anyway, in this article, would it be appropriate to mention popular culture references to Beardsley's work? In particular, I am thinking of the video to STAND INSIDE YOUR LOVE by the Smashing Pumpkins, which was shot in a style influenced by Beardsley's images of "Salome" (The video should be up on YouTube if anyone wanted to see it). -Sara

Sara's question is undated so I don't know if it has been answered. Yes, this is the right place so long as this view is referenced to a source and not the author's own personal reading into. A separate section on cultural references/allusions can be created. Mornington 13:21, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Links[edit]

The second link no longer works. Am removing it. Mornington 10:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who is Dr. Linda G Zatlin, and is it appropriate for such a large chunk of the bibliography section be her unlinked work? Fliponymous (talk) 15:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy[edit]

"he was the most controversial artist of his age". Any citations? Mornington 23:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dramatic Reveal?[edit]

"He was generally regarded as asexual—which is hardly surprising, considering his chronic illness and his devotion to his work." ... "Through his entire career, Beardsley had recurrent attacks of the disease that would end it. He suffered frequent lung hemorrhages and was often unable to work or leave his home." ... and, finally ... "Beardsley was active till his death in Menton, France, at the age of 25 on March 16, 1898, of tuberculosis."

The above quotes repeatedly hint at Beardsley's illness, but the final revelation of its nature happens nearly at the end of the article in an almost incidental manner. I'm not quite sure how to fix this without re-writing the article, but the illness should be explicitly named before being indirectly mentioned later. 168.9.120.8 (talk) 16:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

possible different illness[edit]

in a relatively new biography of yeats, which unfortunately is in the bottom of my storage space, yeats claims the disease was syphilis. he said beardsley's fascination with sexual imagery waxed and waned with the progress of the disease. there seemed to be some connection with the irratability caused by the disease, and dreamy states caused by sexual frustration. he also said that despite appearances beardsley saw the images as non-sexual and a reaction against the repressions of the age he lived in. 184.74.68.182 (talk) 20:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)grumpy[reply]

Art Nouveau or Art Deco?[edit]

Here is Wikipedia: Beardsley was the most controversial artist of the Art Nouveau era, renowned for his dark and perverse images and grotesque erotica, which were the main themes of his later work.

The images in the Wikipedia entry, like those in a hard-cover book of Beardsley's work, resemble the Art Deco style more than they do that of Art Nouveau.

Can anyone shed light upon the matter?

MacLennan123Maclennan123 (talk) 03:28, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

forgeries/false attributions[edit]

Of the four images at the bottom of the page, two of them are known forgeries that first appeared in 1919 as part of something called the H.S. Nicols collection, which contained some 80 fake Beardsleys. They should be deleted and replaced by works that are actually by Aubrey Beadsley. I'm not a wikipedian, or I'd do it myself.

Citation: the Nicols collection is discussed briefly in The Collected Drawings of Aubrey Beardsley, with an appreciation by Arthur Symons edited by Bruce S. Harris. New York: Bounty Books, 1967. See page 153 for the Nicols Collection. The two fakes, Oriental Dancer, and The Black Domino, appear on pages 185 and 190 respectively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.203.171.144 (talk) 16:36, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody has corrected the problem mentioned above, so it doesn't need rechecking. Thanks to the IP user for the citation! --Geekdiva (talk) 07:47, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discrepancy in burial place[edit]

After inserting the accents on the relevant words, I realised that there is a discrepancy in the burial places shown. "Resting place" gives this as Cimitière du Vieux-Château (Reference number 1), whereas "Death" gives it as Cimitière du Trabuquet (Reference numbers 26 and 27). Are there any users who know Menton well enough to clarify and resolve this? CWO (talk) 09:22, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]