Talk:Art glass

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There are two pages that reference glass as an art medium: 'glass art' and 'art glass'. I recommend deleting this page ('art glass') and using 'glass art' as the correct page for this category. I don't know who can do this.

I disagree. Both terms are valid. Both have specific meanings. There does need to be a disambiguation page referring to both as well as other terms.

This page currently points to "Studio Glass" which is only one small part of what is considered by collectors, researchers, publishers and librarians as "Art Glass". So NOT all Art Glass is Studio Glass and not all "Studio Glass" is Art Glass; Some of it is small-batch utilitarian, craft, industrial or scientific.

"Art Glass" needs to be defined in relation to "collector glass" or "collectable glass", "domestic ornamental glass" and "historical glassware with ornamentation and/or decoration" and in opposition to "Glassware", "Pattern Glass", drinking glasses, decorative glass panels for architectural use and "Stained Glass".

"Glass Art" needs to be defined in relation to "Glass Sculpture", "Artistic Architectural Glass", "Art Glass Installations" "Sculptural Artworks which include glass elements" as well as "Hobby Glass: lampworking, slumping & fusing, bead making, glass painting & stained glass" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morrisque (talk • contribs) 13:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding the "Under construction" template. I am working on this article almost daily. Please leave the template there till the article is finished. I would like to hive of the sections on production methods but cannot because the page it should go to, which is Glass production is a specialized article which covers only one production method !!! ....See discussion there. I am having to write other sub-pages to avoid this article getting too long.

Whole sections of the Glass Project are in a mess with no standardisation of terminology. I am trying to rectify that in my own small way but it's a huge task. There is a general misunderstanding of the term "Glass art" for example which is used to aggregate wiki's and stubs which have no connection to what "Glass art" is actually about. --Morrisque (talk) 14:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm inclined to agree with the first poster. The average person probably wouldn't be aware of the distinction between "art glass" and "glass art", and the difference in terms is probably lost on almost everyone but those who know enough about the subject that they probably won't gain much benefit by reading the article. If it is indeed an important distinction as you say, state as much in the article - but there only really needs to be one article concerning art using glass as a medium. Subsections for glass art, art glass, and the difference in terms would be a lot more helpful and easy to find, in my opinion. --User:adammerlinsmith —Preceding undated comment added 06:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Having just run through this article making the capitalisation more consistent and fixing some grammar and punctuation I am left with one big questions: what is it? This article does not actually define its subject clearly - I think a few images would help, but it reads more as an essay by an art critic than an encyclopedia article. I wish I knew more and could help in a more substantial manner. Huw Powell (talk) 02:57, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First paragraph of the article[edit]

In the list of different types of art glass in the first paragraph in this article, we read:

"glass that has been placed into a kiln so that it will mold into a shape".

Isn't there a shorter phrase that can be used to name this type of art glass so that the list is a series of short noun phrases? This one long phrase breaks up the pattern in the list and the flow of the sentence. The details of how it is made can be given (or maybe are given) later in the article. CorinneSD (talk) 23:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically slumped glass, more generally warm glass. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply. Perhaps "warm glass" is the best phrase to use in the first paragraph of the article. (I see further discussion in the sub-section "Kiln-formed glass" under the section headed "Manufacturing techniques". It refers to "hot glass" but gives "warm glass" as a link.) – CorinneSD (talk) 23:28, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Warm glass and hot glass are quite distinct, even though they're much the same temperature. Hot glass is worked manually whilst hot: blowing, bead-making etc. Warm glass is placed into a kiln and left to do its thing: fusing, slumping, casting. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the information. CorinneSD (talk) 01:08, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Clean separation needed from studio glass[edit]

This page and studio glass use the same terms, images, and artists. This should be fixed.

I'm leaving the main discussion about this on on the studio glasss talk page since it is the more detailed page. – SJ + 17:23, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]