Talk:Antal Doráti

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Happy Centenary, Antal[edit]

Happy 100th birthday for tomorrow, wherever you are. Thank you for your great recordings of great music. JackofOz 09:16, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His birth name[edit]

In about 1974 I was turning pages for the Hungarian-American cellist Janos Scholz. I happened to ask him why everyone seemed to stress "Dorati" on the second syllable when all Hungarian words, and names, are stressed on the first. He (who of course knew Dorati) replied that "Dorati" was a non-Hungarian name the conductor had made up himself--for obvious reasons, if you knew that his birth name was "Deutsch." Ccerf (talk) 20:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The first hit in this google search appears to confirm this. Unfortunately, one needs to pay to get the full text. It's well known that Ormandy's name was Blau; but obviously less well known about Dorati's name being Deutsch, otherwise it'd be cited in various places, yet it doesn't appear to be. -- JackofOz (talk) 20:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I'm adding a {{Fact}} tag to the "Antal Deutsch" addition to the article. There is a half-reference to his surname being Deutsch, but we have no knowledge of whether his original given name was Antal or something else. -- JackofOz (talk) 01:59, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I recall an interview with Martin Bookspan in which Mr. Dorati said that, though in Hungarian the name would be accented on the first syllable, he advocated the "Italian" pronunciation (with the accent on the second syllable), as most English speakers were unaccustomed to long unaccented syllables, and would thus make the name sound almost like "Doherty." Kostaki mou (talk) 22:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW: In his autobiography, Notes of Seven Decades (Wayne State University Press, Detroit, 1981, p. 82), Doráti states that he came from a family of "mixed but mostly of Jewish blood." Wiki writers usually catch if a subject is Jewish; they might have missed this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:D280:8BB0:FD82:A960:E522:387C (talk) 05:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Detroit Symphony at Orchestra Hall[edit]

According to the linked article on Orchestra Hall, and my memory as a youngster attending DSO concerts, the Orchestra did not return until 1989. Given the length of the restoration, Dorati probably advocated for it long before it actually happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.88.212.44 (talk) 17:16, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First conductor to record the complete Haydn symphonies?[edit]

Ernst Märzendorfer and the Vienna Chamber Orchestra beat him to it by a hair (completed by 1972), I believe. See e.g. A Century of Recorded Music at Google Books, page 100. Not a widely distributed recording however! (Ah. No article on him yet. Course...) Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Max Goberman also started on this project in 1961-62, and would have been the first, but he had only got about half way through when he died suddenly, aged only 51. -- JackofOz (talk) 03:16, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ernst Märzendorfer, having died last Wednesday, has now returned to life via a Wikipedia article. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:52, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

20th century classical composer category[edit]

Several works of his are recorded (more than for several other conductor/composers, I believe), enough to establish notability by the criteria used on this site (and more works recorded than a number of composers on this site whose notability I'm not doubting, for that matter)?... BIS has recorded his symphonies, for instance (and I believe I've seen them broadcast more than once. (As already noted in the article). Also choral and chamber works as well. Raphael Wallfisch performed his cello concerto in concert with Vänskä and the Minnesota Orchestra as well last year.) Schissel | Sound the Note! 03:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]