Talk:Anne Askew

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Untitled[edit]

This article reads like hagiography and should be edited to a more neutral POV. This would include citing sources and naming the source in text when quoting an NPOV source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.244.148.163 (talk) 14:19, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, section regarding her disagreeing with transubstantiation reads like propoganda! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.103.222.84 (talk) 20:35, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure about that but all religion-related bios are subject to the same criticism, especially those based on the Catholic Encyclopedia, of which there are quite a few on Wikipedia. Quis separabit? 20:48, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

blatant advocacy[edit]

In addition to all the missing in-line citations, mention has been made of the prejudicial POV. I can largely overlook these charges in articles on religions and religions figures, but under "Arrest and interrogation" in this article the phrase "Her answers were full of wisdom and truth" certainly goes far beyond any criterion of objectivity! Billcito (talk) 14:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Far from Unbiased[edit]

I must agree with Billcito, this article is far from unbiased. Naming people "martyrs" and stating such things as "Lord Bonner ... was determined to see her burn" are simply inflammatory and intended to promote a Protestants-Are-Right / Catholics-Are-Wrong mentality. This article needs serious attention! It is FAR from neutral. Eyes down, human. (talk) 18:20, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many RS's describe her as a martyr, therefore ... 50.111.8.120 (talk) 22:19, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Identity of Lady Hertford[edit]

Can anyone clarify this for me? The article says "These ladies included the Queen's sister, Anne Parr, Katherine Willoughby, Anne Stanhope, and Anne Calthorpe. Other targets were Lady Denny and Lady Hertford, wives of evangelicals at court." Who was Lady Hertford? Was not Anne Stanhope married to Edward Symour, who was by this time Earl of Hertford (fomerly Viscount)? So is she double counted? Or was there some other Lady Hertford? I can't see how, as first foundation of the title petered out about three centuries previously, but I may well be wrongly-informed. Sjwells53 (talk) 21:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

execution fast or slow[edit]

The paragraph Life says "A secret supporter of the cause slipped gunpowder to the condemned four, which killed them quickly when it exploded." The paragraph Execution says "The execution lasted about an hour, and she was unconscious and probably dead after fifteen minutes or so" and doesn't mention gunpowder at all. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 15:49, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The former has a reasonable citation, while the latter has had citation needed tags for over four years. I have therefore removed the latter. Tom Yates (talk) 21:09, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find a reasonable citation for the gunpowder claim as the current citation leads to a blog post which contains sources but does not make it clear which one the gunpowder claim has been drawn from. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, which is a reliable source, does not contain any reference to gunpowder so I think we should assume it is not reliably cited and remove it. EEHalli (talk) 16:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Checking the dates, the blog was published on 18 June 2010, five days after season 4, episode 9 of the The Tudors first aired. The Tudors episode includes the gunpowder idea. So I am going to edit the claim out for now. EEHalli (talk) 16:27, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This still doesn't make sense. Did she die quickly from gunpowder or did she not scream until the flames reached her chest? I don't see how both can be true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.88.131 (talk) 05:11, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Considering her physical state by this time from torture, she may not have had strength enough to do more than moan. Her murder was gruesome whatever the technical details (and it was political murder.)50.111.8.120 (talk) 22:25, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Changes with evidence[edit]

I am working on redrafting this article to more clearly outline Askew's life and legacy, and to reduce repetition, contradictions and unevidenced claims. It's going to take a while, but there are some changes I can make quickly and as well as a note when I make the change I'll provide a longer reason with citations in this thread so people can review my work.

Removed claim Askew was first woman to petition for divorce[edit]

This claim's citation is unclear. However, the National Archive article on early divorce in England details that the first English woman to petition for divorce was Alice de Clare in 1271.

EEHalli (talk) 21:04, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't make sense that it was a "Catholic" plot to kill her[edit]

Henry the VIII had broken with the Catholic Church by 1534 "Parliament’s passage of the Act of Supremacy in 1534 solidified the break from the Catholic Church and made the king the Supreme Head of the Church of England." [1]. It seems unlikely that a Catholic would have much traction in a court in England at that time against an Anabaptist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:51DC:E700:0:0:0:62C (talk) 12:27, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll bet Ann was a little "Askew" when they removed her from the rack.[edit]

*rimshot* 24.69.97.22 (talk) 07:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]