Talk:Ann Glover/Archive 1

Archive 1

cheesy bar taken out

Clearly, up until today, the only source for this article was the website for the bar in Boston that exploits this poor woman's name. Improving this article in on my list of things to do, but for today I am taking out the "trivia", because it is trivial and wreaks of COI-POV.--Ishtar456 (talk) 21:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

List of persons executed for witchcraft

I propose that this :

"Other people executed for witchcraft in New England

Historian Clarence F. Jewett included a list of other people executed in New England in The Memorial History of Boston: Including Suffolk County, Massachusetts. 1630–1880 (Ticknor and Company, 1881). He wrote,

The following is the list of the twelve persons who were executed for witchcraft in New England before 1692, when twenty other persons were executed at Salem, whose names are well known. It is possible that the list is not complete ; but I have included all of which I have any knowledge, and with such details as to names and dates as could be ascertained : — 1647, — "Woman of Windsor", Connecticut (name unknown)[later identified as Alse Young], at Hartford. 1648, — Margaret Jones, of Charlestown, at Boston. 1648,— Mary Johnson, at Hartford. 1650? — Henry Lake's wife, of Dorchester. 1650?—Mrs. Kendall, of Cambridge. 1651, — Mary Parsons, of Springfield, at Boston. 1651, — Goodwife Bassett, at Fairfield, Conn. 1653,—Goodwife Knap, at Hartford. 1656, — Ann Hibbins, at Boston. 1662, — Goodman Greensmith, at Hartford. 1662,— Goodwife Greensmith, at Hartford. 1688,— Goody Glover, at Boston.""

should be taken out of all Wikipedia topics because it promotes false information. It is also rather redundant as it appears on almost every entry for executed withes in New England other than those of the Salem Witch trials.

The reason that this entry should be removed is that it contains false information: "— Mary Parsons, of Springfield, at Boston. 1651," This information is false.There were two Mary parsons of Springfield who were accused of being witches, they were Mary Bliss who married Joseph Parsons, and Mary Lewis who married Hugh Parsons. Both women were accused and acquitted of witchcraft. Mary (Lewis) Parsons however still faced the charge of murdering her child and would have been executed but died in prison before it could be carried out. No one named Mary Parsons was ever executed for witchcraft. For the above mentioned reasons this entry should be removed from all topics, since it is spreads false information, or a disclaimer should be put underneath it. - Ken —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.112.238.116 (talk) 03:19, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Jewett apparently didn't cite sources for this list and it looks like a misunderstanding on his part. In 1651, a Mary Parsons of Springfield was acquitted of witchcraft but sentenced to death for the separate charge of murder. (The other Mary Parsons of Springfield was accused and acquitted in the 1670s, so it's clearly not her.) Chapter 2 of David D. Hall's book Witch-Hunting in Seventeenth-Century New England (2nd ed., 2005) is devoted to the 1651–52 accusations surrounding Mary Parsons. If we need a list of pre-Salem New England witchcraft executions, then we should stick to more recent sources that cover the topic in greater detail (the Jewett quote is a footnote in his book). —Mrwojo (talk) 23:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

not a crime-bio

A person who was persecuted as a witch is no more a criminal that a person who was exterminated in a gas chamber because of his/her race or religion. I'm removing the "crime-bio" category.--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:08, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

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A few changes

I have tightened the article and made a few necessary changes (e.g. Glover came over as an indentured labourer, not a "slave"). There is a need for better referencing.

Colin Ryan (talk) 21:53, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

removed medium article by the Librarian Liam Hogan as is a personal opinion and not a reputable source. the status of Ann Glover has not been verified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:94A3:1700:C59A:95F9:F22E:1D9D (talk) 18:23, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

"Notable" plaque is undue, IMO

Undid revision 792447499 by Anmccaff (talk) Nonetheless even if erroneous the memorial plaque exists and would appear to be notable.)

I dunno that a plaque can be "notable", per se, except by artistic merit, notorious fraud, and so forth, @Bastun:. It's a plaque, of somewhat shadowy provenance, in a city where marking buildings for real or imagined historic significance is a local vice that outdoes drink, drugs and cigareets. It says stuff which isn't really true, and it is given outsized -literally - prominence in the article. Undue. Anmccaff (talk) 16:12, 26 July 2017 (UTC)