Talk:Ancient Greek literature/GA2

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 03:57, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Will start soon. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:57, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Iazyges: Just so you know, this was my very first nomination for GA. I first nominated it back on 12 March 2017, which was almost a year ago when I was still an extremely new editor. This is also the third time this article has been nominated; the first time I nominated it, I revoked the nomination and, the second time, the reviewer failed it immediately. Significant improvements have been made since then and I would still like to bring this article up to GA, but it will probably require much more work than my other nominations. Since you are reviewing all of them, I would prefer to review the others first and then come back to this one. The others will probably not take much time to review and we can probably get them all knocked out of the way relatively quickly. Then, afterwards, we can come back and go over this one. --Katolophyromai (talk) 04:18, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 04:28, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria[edit]

GA Criteria

GA Criteria:

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2.c Y

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No DAB links Y
No Dead links Y
Images appropriately licensed Y
Copyvio issues N (This Copyvio check revealed that a small section appears to be lifted directly from another website; I've been unable to determine which came first (i.e. if the site copies the article), so you'll need to reword the section, unless you can prove that the article came first.)

The passage in question was present in more-or-less its current form in the very first edition of the article, created on 16 September 2005 by Colossus. The article on Crystalinks.com that the earwig scan turned up is undated. The website it is hosted on went online on 25 August 1995, according to its "About" page, but it is still an active website and it has been continuously updated and expanded over the course of the last twenty-two years, meaning the article in question could have gone online at any point between 25 August 1995 and yesterday. As far as I can tell, there is no way to know who copied from where. --Katolophyromai (talk) 15:37, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few issues with citations: Several theories have been advanced to explain this curious absence. One is that Mycenaean literature, like the works of Homer and other epic poems, was passed on orally, since the Linear B syllabary is not well-suited to recording the sounds of Greek (see phonemic principle). needs a citation, as does In prose literature, there was more freedom; the main areas were historiography, philosophy, and political rhetoric., and The history on which his reputation rests consisted of 40 books, five of which have been preserved along with various excerpts. They are a vivid recreation of Rome's rise to world power. A lost book, Tactics, was on military matters..

Prose Suggestions[edit]

Lede[edit]

Ancient Greek literature refers to literature written in the Ancient Greek language from the earliest texts until roughly the rise of the Byzantine Empire. suggest Ancient Greek literature refers to literature written in the Ancient Greek language, dating from the earliest extant texts until around the time of the Byzantine Empire.

Pre-classical and classical antiquity[edit]

Unlike Homer, Hesiod speaks of himself in his poetry. suggest either Unlike Homer, Hesiod refers to himself in his poetry. or Unlike Homer, Hesiod writes himself into his poetry.

Hellenistic period[edit]

Over the course of the century, scholarly appraisal of it greatly improved, with many scholars now seeing it in a much more positive light. suggest Over the course of the century, scholarly attitude toward the genre greatly improved, with more recent scholars viewing it in a much more positive light.

Roman period[edit]

Epictetus, who died about 135 AD, was associated with the moral philosophy of the Stoics. His teachings were collected by his pupil Arrian in the Discourses and the Encheiridion (Manual of Study). I suggest you remove the bit about him dying, as I don't think it's particularly relevant.

Legacy[edit]

Ancient Greek literature has had an enormous impact on western literature as a whole. suggest Ancient Greek literature had an enormous impact on western literature as a whole.
George Bernard Shaw's play Pygmalion is a modern, rationalized retelling of the ancient Greek legend of Pygmalion. the "rationalized" here seems to be used for its meaning of "reorganized", suggest you just used "reorganized".

Others[edit]

Suggest removing the See also section, as neither are particularly relevant.

@Katolophyromai: That is all my suggestions, apologies for the long wait, passing now. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 13:12, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]