Talk:Ammachi Panapillai Amma

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Merge proposal[edit]

There are three articles dealing with roughly the same subject: a title of the "consort" of Maharajas in some regions of India and beyond. This article deal with subject in reasonable detail, while the two other articles, Nethyar Amma and Kettilamma are one-paragraph texts, essentially stating, "title Z in the region R is the same as title X in region P and title Y in region Q". I propose to merge the two stubs into this article Ammachi Panapillai Amma. It is notable that Nethyar Amma has no interwiki links, and for the other two articles the interwiki links point to short text stating equivalence of all three titles, with just one article in any language. It seems therefore that we are dealing here with exact synonyms, so our articles should be merged into one. Personally, I have no preference for a particular title here. It seems that Koilamma (title)/Kovilamma should also be considered. Викидим (talk) 18:34, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with this is (A) you elide the lexical variation from north to east, which is an important part of analyzing Malayali culture, and (B), you cannot cope easily with core cases, let alone edge cases. In Travancore, the son of a Maharaja by his Ammachi Panapillai Amma is a Thampi. In the Mannarghat or Kavalappara or Ankarath houses, *any* daughter of the blood ('princess') is a Nethiar. Likewise in Nedungadi houses *all* dynastic women are kovilammas. The 'consortness' that comes across in the Travancore practice is muted, to put it mildly, elsewhere. Hölderlin2019 (talk) 05:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The difference between Nethyar Amma and Kettilamma currently appears to be limited to geography and a single phrase in each. Merging should preserve these differences. Викидим (talk) 08:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]