Talk:All-American Publications

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A split before the merger[edit]

There was a period of time in which there was a brief split between DC & All-American, during which All-American used their logo on the their comics. I don't see this mentioned in the article. --Emb021 18:38, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to a rather detailed account in All-Star Companion by Roy Thomas (the original book), the above is quite true. Furthermore, also according to the same work, Picture Stories From the Bible is not the only property Max Gaines kept when he otherwise sold AAP to DC. It may very well not have had its own comic title but merely ran in some anthology (as, for two examples, "Doctor Fate" and "The Spectre" both ran in More Fun Comics). It was some sort of group of kids, but I don't remember just what Thomas called it, and no longer possess a copy of his book to be able to check it myself. Somebody with one should get all that info into these various articles. Thanks in advance. --Tbrittreid (talk) 20:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Creative Legacy[edit]

Is there source material for Max Gaines' co-creation of Wonder Woman? He edited the book, but I have never seen anyone but William Moulton Marstonn credited as the character's creator and I am a great big geek. Generally artists are credited as co-creators as well, and in Wonder Woman is usually credited to Marston as sole creator. Harry G. Peter doesn't even usually get co-credit, which is why I ask about Gaines. I hate to change it if I missed something, so I haven't touched it, but I am very curious. If it IS accurate, then it should be added to Marston's entry as well. There Marston and his wife are given credit and Gaines is only mentioned as editor/publisher.Chrismrich (talk) 05:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first I've heard of anything like this, and Wonder Woman has been written about voluminously in many books. -- Tenebrae (talk) 07:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Spilt - for paper reasons?[edit]

Could one of the reasons for the split be for paper-raitioning? WWII was in full swing at the time of the split and if National and All-American were consitered one enitiy by the raitioning board, then the split makes sense.

Keep in mind after the split the big double-sized Big All-American Book of comics was published. 144 pages was the biggest single all-oriignal comic condent published ever and the only way that could of happened was due to getting aditional paper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.84.124 (talk) 19:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Names of the companies[edit]

Hopefully, this cited passage from National Comics Publications will clear up what seems to be ongoing confusion on this All-American Publications article page. In 1946, the company was named National Comics Publications, Inc., not National Periodical Publications, the name it took in 1961.

National Allied and Detective Comics, Inc. merged on September 30, 1946^[1] to become National Comics Publications, Inc.s, Inc. (renamed National Periodical Publications, Inc. in 1961),^[2]^[3] which also absorbed an affiliated concern, Max Gaines' and Liebowitz's All-American Publications.^[4]

^ In a 1947–1948 lawsuit field by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster against National, the presiding judge noted in a findings of facts on April 12, 1948:
"DETECTIVE COMICS, INC. was a corporation duly organized and existing under the laws of the State of New York, and was one of the constituent corporations consolidated on September 30, 1946 into defendant NATIONAL COMICS PUBLICATIONS, INC."
^ "'Superman Faces New Hurdles: Publishers of Comic Books Showing Decline". The New York Times. September 23, 1962.
^ Maggie Thompson, Michael Dean, Brent Frankenhoff, Joyce Greenholdt, John Jackson Miller (editors), Comics Buyer's Guide 1996 Annual, Krause Publications, 1995, p. 81: "Beginning as National Allied Publications in 1935 [sic] and becoming National Allied Newspaper Syndicate the next year, it changed to National Comic [sic] Publications in 1946 and National Periodical Publications in 1961..."
^ Jones, Gerard (2004). Men of Tomorrow: Geeks, Gangsters and the Birth of the Comic Book. New York: Basic Books. p. 223. ISBN 0465036562.

[1] In a 1947–1948 lawsuit field by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster against National, the presiding judge noted in a findings of facts on April 12, 1948:
"DETECTIVE COMICS, INC. was a corporation duly organized and existing under the laws of the State of New York, and was one of the constituent corporations consolidated on September 30, 1946 into defendant NATIONAL COMICS PUBLICATIONS, INC."

[2] "'Superman Faces New Hurdles: Publishers of Comic Books Showing Decline". The New York Times. September 23, 1962.

[CBG-3] Maggie Thompson, Michael Dean, Brent Frankenhoff, Joyce Greenholdt, John Jackson Miller (editors), Comics Buyer's Guide 1996 Annual, Krause Publications, 1995, p. 81: "Beginning as National Allied Publications in 1935 [sic] and becoming National Allied Newspaper Syndicate the next year, it changed to National Comic [sic] Publications in 1946 and National Periodical Publications in 1961..."

[4] Jones, Gerard (2004). Men of Tomorrow: Geeks, Gangsters and the Birth of the Comic Book. New York: Basic Books. p. 223. ISBN 0465036562.

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