Talk:Alexandre de Rhodes

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Alexandre de Rhodes' nationality[edit]

Alexandre Rhodes was not a French national. He was born and grew up in Avignon, which was at that time Papal States, and which had never been French until 1791. Therefore, please review the article about his nationality.

What would be his nationality, if any, then? olivier 11:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He might have been a French national, but not a French subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.176.120.156 (talk) 19:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

has several facts wrong![edit]

Hello! If the source for this page has several facts wrong, please at least tell here which and give your alternative source too.

That's how! -- DLL ^{.. T} 21:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The controversy part is so wrong and uneducated. It was the bishop Pigneau de Behaine who sought a military alliance between the Nguyen prince and France in order to defeat the Tay Son party and protect the Christian establishments. That alliance was agreed by Louis XVI and signed with prince Canh in 1787. But France's financial mess was a stumbling obstacle. Governor Thomas Conway of Pondicherry delayed the help. Bishop Pigneau lobbied French merchants of Pondicherry for funds and logistic support. He bribed many officers for desertion and hired mercenaries among cipoys and got Fillipinos troops to fill and rank.

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The result of the move request was: moved. The old history at Alexandre de Rhodes moved to Talk:Alexandre de Rhodes/old. Jenks24 (talk) 09:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander de Rhodes → Alexandre de Rhodes – The French form is overwhelmingly preferred in sources. Check for yourself. Srnec (talk) 23:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

Support 20x in Google Books, would be 100x in modern Google Scholar sources - not even close enough to justify checking. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:15, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. i get 2,000 (1,820 deghosted) post-1990 English-language GBook hits for "Alexandre de Rhodes", 244 (140 deghosted) for "Alexander de Rhodes". Kauffner (talk) 07:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Status of Avignon[edit]

I've added 'now in' in front of France, as the status of Avignon was rather changeable up to the Revolution. Strictly a papal territory, it was in the hands of the French monarchy from time to time. I think my addition covers most possibilities. Peridon (talk) 20:35, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Stamps[edit]

also 1961: http://vietnamcollector.com/south-vietnam/300-death-anniversary-of-father-alexandre-de-rhodes/ --2607:FEA8:D5DF:1AF0:B147:D7B2:68E3:F339 (talk) 19:31, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

dates and feasts[edit]

I don't see the usefulness of including Catholic feasts after the dates. And e.g. Visitation is no longer July 2. So unless there is specific relevance I suggest they be removed as original research. 142.163.195.124 (talk) 20:38, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]