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Article issues[edit]

There appears to be a conflict of interest surrounding this article. Its creator has linked to this article, and added external links (in the form of citations) related to this company, in several other Wikipedia articles ([1]). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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added some notable sales[edit]

I added some notable sales (while I was looking at another article) and I linked it to this page. Just in case this comes up for deletion again. Cheers and happy editing. --SVTCobra (talk) 04:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Successor company or continuation?[edit]

The external link goes to https://www.alexautographs.com/, but the site identifies as Alexander Historical Auctions. That successor company made the sale in July 2022 of either Nazi propaganda material or fake Nazi memorabilia. Should that be mentioned in this article, especially since the successor company bought out the domain of this company? —C.Fred (talk) 01:08, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Further, is that a separate company, or just the same company under a different name for our purposes, to avoid just the kind of notability that the 2022 sale generated? —C.Fred (talk) 01:10, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On further review, the 2011 Haaretz article supporting the sale of the Mengele diaries says that Alexander Historical Auctions conducted the sale, not Alexander Autographs. —C.Fred (talk) 01:23, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bingo. Here's the solid connection:

"The suit comes with all the required proof it was Tibbets's, says Alexander Autographs President Bill Panagopulos." archived 2008 US News & World Report story
"Bill Panagopulos, president of Alexander Historic Auctions..." Haaretz 2011 story
"Bill Panagopulos, the president of Alexander Historical Auctions, which has faced similar rebuke for previous sales — including one that featured the personal diaries of Josef Mengele, a notorious Nazi war criminal..." Times of Israel 2022 story

This pretty solidly establishes that the same management was in charge of both companies, and it makes them look to be pretty much the same. This self-published source clinches it, IMO, that the companies are related parties with overlap in ownership:

"The sign was purchased by principals of Alexander Autographs, Inc., one a founder of Alexander Historical Auctions, the current auctioneers of this relic." current auction listing at AHA.

Now I guess the question is, how does this get incorporated in the article? —C.Fred (talk) 01:37, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why would this be incorporated in an article about a firm that is no longer in existence? One company was incorporated in CT (Alexander Autographs), one in DE (Alexander Historical), and they simply share one common part-owner. Additionally, the Alexander Autographs page remained untouched for years until only recently, following publicity over a controversial sale. This is not a "notable company" and the page should simply be deleted. Evgenios123 (talk) 01:32, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]