Talk:Albanian Armed Forces

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Sources[edit]

Lately, several changes have been made regarding the defense budget and the manpower figures. Can people provide some sources for these changes? Right now, the differences between the fluctuating versions are quite notable for a country like Albania (one said around $200 million for 2007, now it says something like $500 million). I am almost positive that the $500 million figure is dead wrong. That would imply that Albania spends something like 6% of its GDP on defense, which is ludicrous. Anyway, some transparency would really help.UberCryxic 06:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i think it has something to do with people estimating the budget based on gdp and gdp (ppp). thats why you get two very different answers. for the defense budget you have to calculate based on gdp (non PPP)

Even leaving aside the percentage estimate from the GDP, the $500 million figure is still bogus as it would represent something like 1/3 of Albania's state budget, which hovers around $1.5 to $2 billion annually.UberCryxic 04:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

500 million is very bogus and way off taking any factual statistic into account. btw the budget is 3 billion this year not 2 billion. also the ministry of defense had a 180 million budget last year. albanias gdp (non PPP) in 2007 is about $10.053 billion. if the defense budget is 2% (NATO requirement and the most it will ever be) then the most optimistic assumption about the defense budget in 07 is $201 million. anything substantially higher than that can't be taken seriously.

News as of last week is that the MoD has decided to raise the military Expenditures from 1.49% to 2% by end of 2007 mainly because Albania is trying to enter NATO and because of Albania’s missions in Afghanistan, Iraq & Lebanon. Also 92 was bogus its not anymore the figure has raised to 210 million Albania’s GDP is $21 billion (Albania also has a lager gray economy which is worth at least 50% on top of the official) the that is brining the total to at least $31 billion but either way Albania new military Expenditures is over $200 million with its official economy it would be around $250 million including its gray economy its would be over $500 million Gon4z 14:09, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How can you edit teh infromation in the side Box somethings there can be extended and other are wrong and need to be changed thanx in advance

THE inventory of Albanian army MBTs must be removed at all. cant shown a inventory of 2030 tanks. very few in fact exist. must make a new inventory to be correct

Tank Inventory[edit]

I've updated the Tank inventory and ship inventory. I took the information from the 2006 edition of the The World Defence Almanac.noclador 13:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another source for you to look at (from 2004): http://www.csees.net/?page=country_section&country_id=1&sec=8


exactly its says Albania operates 373 tanks not 79 as you stated even your source speaks agaisnt you

Template:Infobox National Military Albania[edit]

I also updated the Albanian Military template, but I'm unable to remove the today irrelevant entries i.e. "Available for military service" or "Fit for military service" if anyone knows hoe to edit these things away- plese do so. noclador 13:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Taulant23[edit]

You inserted the following numbers into the article:

  • Active personnel: 622,850 (Ranked 15)
622,850 active personnel? that is impossible! that is twice the number of the French Armed Forces!
  • Military age population: males age 20–49: 16,756,323 (2005 est.)
Military age population: 16,756,323??? Albania has 3,6 million inhabitants and 16 million reserves????
  • Total fit for service: males age 20-49: 13,905,901 (2005 est.)
Total fit for service: 13,905,901??? see above!
  • Annual spending: $10.936 billion (2006 est.)[1] (Ranked 25th)
$10.936 billion spending??? that is the Albanian GDP!
  • Percent of GDP spent on military: 3.0% (2006 est.)[2]
3% of GDP... so the Albanian GDP is $364,533 billions? more than Poland???

and the document you give as source: http://www.nato.int/docu/pr/2006/p06-159.pdf does NOT even mention Albania! --noclador 08:12, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know for sure its not 13.000 but I will find more source for this page, still working on it.Thank you --Taulant23 19:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Albania's Military Budget[edit]

With regards to the military budget of Albania.

The budget is released by the Ministry of Finance (http://www.minfin.gov.al/downloads/Buxheti_2007_Tabelat_Keshilli_Ministrave.xls).

According to the website of the Ministry of Finance the total budget for 2007 allocated to the Ministry of Defence is ALL 18,119,000,000 or USD 204,523,007

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Albania's 'New' Army[edit]

Article states that it will have about 14,500 professional troops. http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2008/08/21/feature-03 Does anyone know what kind of weapons Albania has been buying (if any) lately? I know it's not planes or tanks, but probably light infantry weapons. Keep it Fake (talk) 00:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rhe rinovaion of the army will start at 2010.The army will get totally new tanks and planes.They say about f-16s and Leopard Tanks,let's see if they are saying the truth...--Jurgenalbanian (talk) 00:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Continuous vandalism[edit]

I have noted the unconstructive edits, made on the page by User:Gerd 72. The user continuously removes the "Equipment" section which, in my opinion, is obligatory for an article of this size and importance. I am dispatching towards the user with a request to discontinue with the vandalism-like edits [1][2][3] and the unfounded deletion of information. - Tourbillon A ? 16:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved per request. Since we only had an uncertainty, and no actual opposition, I'm giving the requester the benefit of the doubt in this case. If this move was a bad one, we'll find out soon enough. - GTBacchus(talk) 08:59, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Military of Albania → Albanian Armed Forces – I think the page needs to be renamed (moved) from Military of Albania to Albanian Armed Forces. This is the actual name of the organisation and this fits with almost all other country military articles on Wikipedia. I've tried moving the page, but it won't let me because it says "Albanian Armed Forces" already exists, but clearly it's only a redirect. I'm not sure how to move it. So I've put in this request. --Hibernian (talk) 04:19, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Unsure. See List of militaries by country, many countries are represented by XXXian Armed Forces but others by Military of XXX. The official name isn't all that relevant according to WP:AT, and it doesn't seem to be the pattern either. Evidence that it's the actual name of the organisation? Andrewa (talk) 14:20, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Albania–Yugoslav border incident in 1999[edit]

Albania–Yugoslav border incident : Product mentioned in history. A french contributor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.202.114.216 (talk) 09:40, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The User:Noci1995 has changed several times the nr of active personnel of Albanian Armed Forces though as it is fully sourced.

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