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POV[edit]

The article for Metzudat Koach has a POV complaint and a neutrality dispute sticker on it, this one should too. This article is written entirely written from a Palestinian POV. It presents the Palestinian interests, actions and casualties with no regard to similar British and Zionist issues.-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.118.115 (talk) 03:48, 17 July 2011 (UTC) Proof: in the section titled "1948 war, and aftermath" no reference is given to the fallen Israeli soldiers. the terms depopulated and israeli settlement are slanted, and the quote from the palestinian historian is irrelevant (it was written in 1992!)[reply]

I changed "settlement" to "moshav". Otherwise I don't see your point. This was a Palestinian village, of course it is written from a Palestinian viewpoint. The 1992 description is well sourced and relevant. If there is history missing, add it. Zero^talk 10:54, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Settlement" is actually the word used by Khalidi (who is a source which fulfills WP:RS -requirements) -but I will not edit-war over a change to "moshav". The fact that the Metzudat Koach has a POV-complaint is not a reason enough to place a POV-complaint here. Much of the Metzudat Koach-article is sourced to palmach.org.il ...which is simply not a WP:RS, AFAIK. If you want to remove the POV-label from that article, then find better sources. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:45, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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In Fiction[edit]

The town was fictionalized as Abu Yesha in the novel "Exodus" by Leon Uris.

I think this information would be helpful, but I do not have sufficient privileges to add it.

Alas, I could not find a reference. The name in the book, however, closely resembles Al-Nabi Yusha. In addition, the fictional town is likewise located below a Tegart fort (probably today's Metzudat Koach), and was razed by the Palmach.

A fictional kibbutz nearby, Gan Daphna, probably refers to Ramot Naftali. The book also refers to a Ramat Naftali among other towns in a news brief like fashion (on page 479 in my paperback issue), but that text seems like a filler to provide historical context, and may not be so relevant.

More significantly, the Wikipedia page for the kibbutz Daphna already claims a connection to the fictional Gan Daphna. While the names are very similar, I am not sure that identification is correct. The book mentions many times that Gan Daphna is on a mountain, yet the real Daphna sits in the plains of the Hula Valley near two other pre-1940 kibbutzim (together, the Ussishkin Fortresses). The plot also requires an elevated location, perhaps most memorably when several hundred children are evacuated in a daring operation. They are carried down one child to a man through rough terrain past the town of Abu Yesha, which controls the sole access road. I furthermore could not find a Tegart fort (the fictional Fort Esther) anywhere near the actual kibbutz Daphna, which casts further doubt on the competing identification.

--Felix Lechner (talk) 19:32, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]