Talk:Ajika

Svanuri Marili

I do not think that svanuri marili is the dry version of ajika. I have seen both sold at Georgian markets: The dry ajika is indeed red, consisting of chili flakes, salt and herbs; but the svanuri marili is pale tan to brown. Itconsists of no chili, but salt with black pepper, garlic and cumin and/or fenugreek, if my nose is to be trusted. It has only slight heat, other than ajika which is quite pungent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.168.186.177 (talk) 19:10, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

The above poster is 100% correct. Here's a link to a couple of pictures I took when in Georgia, which may help in terms of evidence. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/llaycm13h0nsatr/AAANRm7_cYKj0aish4ci5o4ia?dl=0 Anyone is welcome to crop and incorporate either or both of them.

Skhug

This should be merged with Skhug. It's the same spice, but from a different country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.199.9.67 (talk) 09:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Various types

There is also the abxasuri ajika, Abkhazian adjika, which is also dry and green, but not so spicy.

Origin of adjika.

Georgian აჯიკა is borrowed from Abkhazian а-џьыка (adjika, salt). The Abaza word for salt is джьыкIа. Apswaaa (talk) 23:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Not borrowed, Abkhazia is a region of the Republic of Georgia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kremnica (talk • contribs) 20:48, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Independtly of the current political situation, Abkhaz language is different from Georgian language. Therefore it is possible, that the word was borrowed from one language into the other one. But in any case, such statements need sources. --Off-shell (talk) 21:50, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Its Because they are apsuas from adyga tribes adygas are circassians abazas and apsuas they are coming from north and they have same language family 109.172.146.79 (talk) 08:02, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Looming edit war

I've reincluded the Abkhaz name for adjika deleted by Apswaaa, and I've also reverted the other edits made by Zolokin to restore the other deleted information, though in as neutral a form as possible. Going from the history I sense an edit war between these two users is about to begin, so perhaps any further edits can be discussed here first? Thefamouseccles (talk) 07:47, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I think Kaslandzia knows Abkhaz lexicon better then Yanagisawa. Apswaaa (talk) 14:05, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Fine, but that is a personal opinion, and unreferenced personal opinions have no place on Wikipedia (as they violate WP:NPOV and WP:NOR). In any case, the introduction to Yanagisawa's dictionary states that it was compiled with the assistance of a native speaker of Abkhaz. Thefamouseccles (talk) 06:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

How can the origin of adjika be disputed? Compare the three forms: Aba джьыкIа, Abk а-џьыка, Geo აჯიკა. The initial ა in Geo shows that the word was borrowed from Abk. Apswaaa (talk) 14:05, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you that the word is Abkhaz in origin (though we still need a reliable source for that), but the origin of adjika itself is difficult to know and Megrelians, Abkhazians, Daghestanians and even Armenians and some Turkish people have all claimed that it was invented by their culture. Thefamouseccles (talk) 06:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Never heard about it. Can you give any links? I hope Megrelians, Daghestanians, Armenians... can explain why they decided to use the Abk word for salt for their invention. :) Apswaaa (talk) 17:16, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid I've lost one of the links (I'll try to find it again), but in any case I have seen one Turkish person try to argue that the word adjika comes from the Turkish word acı, which means "hot, spicy, pungent", or even acık, which means "it is hungry". Obviously that's wrong, but often when this kind of nationalism is involved, logic disappears. :) I'll try to find those links for you. Thefamouseccles (talk) 02:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

In Georgian we use such kind of initial. We have got another dish - Ajapsandali, but it doesnt mean it's borrowed from abk. Initial 'ა' doesn't prove abkhazian origin. –BruTe ^Talk 15:40, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Did’t you notice the absence of a- in Aba джьыкIа? If the word were borrowed from Geo the Abaza form would be аджьыкIа. Cf. Aba/Abk адгьыл which is borrowed from Geo ადგილი. And don’t forget that the first meaning of а-џьыка is salt. Apswaaa (talk) 18:57, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, the Ubykh word for "salt" is ʤɨ, which shows that Abkhaz а-джьыкIа and Abaza джьыкIа are native to North-West Caucasian. But again, this is all original research until we can find a source for it. Thefamouseccles (talk) 06:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I have never seen a Gruze (neither laz nor mingrel) variant of Ajuka, i dont think they have anything to do with it, also It literally means salt, a variant of it is Pyrpljuka, which means peppered salt. It must be a soviet introduction to Georgia, as communities in Turkey apperantly doesnt have it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.100.69.47 (talk) 17:45, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Citation

Apswaa, please cite the book of Копешавидзе.--OBrigada (talk) 23:38, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

The book is available on-line http://www.apsny.ru/kitchen/kitchen.php?page=content/priprava.htm Apswaaa (talk) 20:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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