Talk:A Hard Day's Night (film)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Video CD

I can't fill in any of the details, but from what I remember this was one of the first films to come on Video CD - or at least it was one of the first films to be released on Video CD outside Japan. I remember back in 1994-ish there was a concerted but doomed effort by various manufacturers to make Video CD take off in the UK, and along with Kate Bush's The Whole Story and Star Trek VI this was one of the launch titles for the Phillips CDi, Commodore CDTV and Amiga CD32 etc. Unfortunately I was only a small child at the time and I can't find an authoritative source. -Ashley Pomeroy 21:25, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

main shot in article

are you sure the harrison & boyd shot you have up is a screenshot from the movie?? i don't remember george harrison & pattie boyd sitting next to each other in any scene in the movie...so maybe it's a shot from the set?? =S 70.30.164.129 21:23, 21 November 2005 (UTC) veronica

A photograph of Harrison and a woman who might be Boyd asleep on the train also appears in Roy Carr’s Beatles at the Movies, page 29. The image appears rather candid, possibly suggesting the authenticity of the above photo as being taken from the actual film has reasons for dispute. 207.81.164.238 22:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Mockumentary?

A Hard Day's Night does not quite fit the mold of mockumentaries. The dialogue in mockumentaries tends to be improvved. Almost everything in this film was scripted (save for the sequence to "Can't Buy Me Love"). Swatson1978 23:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

A "Mockumentary" is simply a fake documentary. Whatever other specifics each one has in it are not defining rules but the director's preferences.

Is not a mock documentary--which phrase, nor even concept I daresay, nor the word mockumentary even existed in 1964---defined by having NON performers as the main characters.......Hence the "fakeness"?....

Since the Beatles were the real group, the movie is a comedy containing them, with some fun performances? just asking....67.163.141.14 (talk) 12:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not keen on "Mockumentary" either, it just doesn't seem to fit that mould. The humour is more the Beatles' natural style, as opposed to that of Spinal Tap. "Mock documentary" falls into the same trap. Suggest we lose "mock", because the style of Lester's direction is more "fly on the wall" than the usual involved style of other mockumentaries, and principally it is not knowing, as are The Office and Spinal Tap. Lester does not break the fourth wall to any great degree. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 13:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I too disagree that it's a "Mock documentary", because the film crew of a true mock documentary/mockumentary are implicitly a presence in the film; as Rodhullandemu points out, This Is Spinal Tap and The Office are true mockumentaries because the film crew are acknowledged as a presence by the characters. A Hard Day's Night is, by contrast, a stylised and ironically self-aware comedy. At one point, Paul McCartney does break the fourth wall (when he points a hairdryer at the camera and shouts 'Zap!') but elsewhere the conceit seems to have planned around the Beatles' limitations as actors and strengths as personalities: the Beatles give the impression that they are self-consciously playing themselves in a movie, but nobody else in the movie is aware that they are fictional characters. So I would argue that A Hard Day's Night is in no way a mock documentary. In fact, given that Lester and his crew sometimes drew on documentary elements for effect (such as shooting real crowds of genuine Beatle fans), the film is a mixture of fictional comedy and genuine documentary. Lexo (talk) 23:54, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

OK I am confused

WP:Beatles thinks B class but WP:Films thinks Start? Huh? Are we Beatlemaniacs overgenerous? Are the filmies overharsh? Grin. I'm confused. ++Lar: t/c 01:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Not sure, but it looks a little better than Start class to me. Start/B, either way is not good enough so the discrepancy doesn't matter too much. I notice they wanted to rate it High on importance but their template's importance feature seems to be either missing or faulty. --kingboyk 16:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Roger Ebert Review of Film

This is Roger Ebert's review of the film for use in the article [1] - last accessed 1 November, 2006. LuciferMorgan 22:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Film review

I am adding this reference November 23, 2006, in the event that references are required in future for this page. Carr, Roy. Beatles at the Movies. (New York: HarperCollins, 1996), p.43, 53. 207.81.164.238 22:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

References in Popular Culture

It might be worthwhile to list various occasions whence this film has been referred to or parodied over the years. I can provide three examples. The opening scenes of the first Austin Powers, as well as those parodied in a preview for Goldmember, are directly lifted from The Beatles’ madcap escape from their fans that serves to open this film. Also, in an episode of Eek The Cat, Eek drops into the first sequence on the train, where The Beatles admire Paul’s grandfather. Finally, in an episode of Family Ties, the family returns from having just seen the film; the children did not like it. (Mchelada 19:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC))

Fair use rationale for Image:HardDaysNight.jpg

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BetacommandBot 11:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

GA

With the right references this film could easily be a GA.--andreasegde (talk) 11:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Are the photos from Commons really free-use? They're just phtos of the cover, and are not free-use, but fair-use, methinks.--andreasegde (talk) 12:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

This is a great article, and with a little cleaning up, could be nominated soon! Just trying to rally up some support, Andreasedge. Kodster (Talk) 02:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Successful good article nomination

I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of April 5, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Pass

2. Factually accurate?: Pass

3. Broad in coverage?: Pass

4. Neutral point of view?: Pass

5. Article stability?: Pass

6. Images?: Pass

If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. Realist2 (talk) 20:02, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Why?

Listen, I am currently, in English, studying the Beatles, during this lesson, we began to see the movie, and he pauses at the part (opening credits) where the Beatle trips, and explains about it, well I decided to add that little peice of info for everyone to know that, so please, will someone undo the edit that Rodhullandemu undid? Here's the info, just copy and paste (go to edit, then goe to the trivia section i added, then copy and paste when it is authorized):

This would need a reliable source, not just watching the film, because this constitutes original research. Also, Trivia sections are deprecated and the information can go into the article body- if a source for it can be found. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 04:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thank you.

Colonel Valh ala-112 02:06, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

In the opening credits of the movie, one of the Beatles trips and falls on accident. This shot was originally meant to be deleted, but was then decided later to be kept. Also, if you closely after the Beatle trips and falls, you can see the crowd chasing them laugh.

That's George Harrison falling, and he almost takes Ringo Starr down with him. I've never noticed the laughing crowd, though. 174.0.46.168 (talk) 18:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

He doesn't almost take Ringo down they both end up on the floor, I've just replayed the intro. Stub Mandrel (talk) 23:11, 7 February 2021 (UTC)