Talk:2021 in the United Kingdom

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Deaths section[edit]

I've recently updated (in a process that took hours) the death section of this page to include missing deaths of people from the UK that had been recorded elsewhere (specifically the Deaths in January 2021 and February pages). In the process I updated the format of the Deaths section to bring it in line with that of the main 2021 page, as well as other Year in Topic pages such as 2021 in Australia and 2021 in the United States - specifically regarding the size of images, the date format, and the inclusion of years of births at the end of each entry rather than ages at death in the middle of entries. Claiming "over-link" and inconsistency with prior UK yearly pages, @Helper201: mass reverted these updates, which included removing the majority of January death entries - though he has since retained the images added (though at the time of writing, there is a mass overflow of images). I see absolutely no issue with including these updates as I have done so and as I have explained, and reject the "over-link" argument given that the linking format has always been used with precedents such as the main yearly pages (which are also used by a far greater number of users), and has long been accepted and never brought up as an issue there. --Thescrubbythug (talk) 02:41, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thescrubbythug. Why could you not have come here and discussed this before reverting me? You are clearly new to the X year in the United Kingdom page. I have been a regular editor of the UK year pages for a long time, as have many others here. The polite and acceptable thing to do when reverted is to come here and discuss it and I could outline why I reverted you, as I tried to explain in edit descriptions. Individually reverting back your mass date edits one by one would've took ages and was incredibly frustrating, that's why I reverted back to an older version of the page that removed other edits. Just because something is done on other country pages does not mean it should or has to be the same here. There are other pages that format like this, such as the New Zealand years pages (PLEASE leave that alone, I have not gone on to the Australia page and tried to change the date links there while this is being discussed and I would appreciate it if you showed the same respect). Consistency does not necessarily mean correct. If you want to bring upon the matter of consistency see the prior years in the UK pages, which are formatted the same as it was here before you changed it. Please read WP:OVERLINK. Dates are specifically mentioned as something that should generally not be linked. It’s obvious to readers what dates are like 1 January etc and completely unnecessary to link them and the same for years. It just makes the page look messy and cluttered and is completely unnecessary. If you want to change the format for the age the person was at their death to their birth date then you should have come here first and raised this issue. I am fairly neutral on this point. What I object to is the overlinking of dates and trying to push through your changes without discussing them first. The page should retain its long-held status quo until there is a consensus or resolution found here. Helper201 (talk) 03:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 in the UK edit[edit]

Moved here from my talkpage. -- DeFacto (talk). 11:24, 24 August 2021 (UTC) [reply]

Can we please find a compromise surrounding the edit I made that you [DeFacto] reverted? It’s a significant event with plenty of mainstream news coverage so I think it deserves a spot on this page. How that's done/formatted I'm open to compromising on. Helper201 (talk) 11:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Helper201, I don't think that this article is an appropriate place to publicise such trivial future deadlines, it was not the primary topic of the cited source, it was buried in a senteance way down the article. Picking it out like that gives it way too much weight. -- DeFacto (talk). 11:36, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
DeFacto, what about just stating somewhere on the page that the election is taking place? I'm not sure exactly where it would be placed or how to format this as the page currently stands, as it runs across a period of time rather than being on one specific day. That's why I tried to pick out a specific date. We could maybe add an upcoming events subsection for September and state that voting for the election beings on 2 September or introduce a new piece of formatting where somehow we state it’s an upcoming event that takes place across September? Helper201 (talk) 11:44, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Helper201, I'd say that if there is due coverage when the results are announced, that that would be the time to consider adding it. -- DeFacto (talk). 12:34, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
DeFacto, I think you may unintentionally be bordering on WP:OWNERSHIP behaviour now. It’s a significant event that has plenty of mainstream news coverage and I've tried to keep the formatting as close to what is established as possible. I don't think there is any good case to remove this. Helper201 (talk) 13:33, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Helper201, no, per WP:BRD you need a consensus to add it if challenged, and you were challenged. Wait to see if a consensus to add this future event is reached. -- DeFacto (talk). 14:01, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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