Talk:2009 Fort Hood shooting

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In the newsA news item involving this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on November 5, 2009.
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14 killed(including an unborn baby)[edit]

One of the victims was pregnant. Shouldn't the kill count be 14? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graylandertagger (talkcontribs) 00:49, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems I was right. One of the victims was pregnant. Changing the kill count. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fort-hood-massacre-victims-pregnant-soldier-francheska-velez-moment-silence-bases-article-1.414362 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graylandertagger (talkcontribs) 23:39, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We have to go by the count used in reliable sources.--TMCk (talk) 23:47, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Additions to the aftermath section[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I think it would be helpful to add a portion about the 10th anniversary of the shooting which was in 2019. A small ceremony was held at Fort Hood which brought together the victim's families. Mike Pence also issued a statement about the 10th anniversary. Some of the links I plan to use are below:

https://kdhnews.com/military/families-remember-loved-ones-lost-during-fort-hood-shooting/article_2b3409e8-0031-11ea-bd42-eb0695759f8c.html

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/11/05/the-mass-shooting-at-fort-hood-was-10-years-ago-on-nov-5-2009/

https://www.cbs19.tv/article/news/local/10-years-later-fort-hood-shooting/501-beceb5b1-d010-4e4a-8cb6-5c0f2aa84b06

Please comment any thoughts!

Jeffrey-hu-umn (talk) 21:26, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My experience.[edit]

I keep editing it to add my experience. A lot of this is wrong. I haven’t tried to edit out your wrong details but did try to add some facts. But someone keeps deleting it. I don’t know why. I have a soldiers medal from the day and I want to add my piece. I should be allowed to do that. No one ever tied the door shut with a belt. And when I got back inside with colonel Warman and another private, there was no one inside but bodies. I think when it talks about medics and nurses getting into the building they mean me.I came in the back. But that was before he shot the first police officer. I took colonel Warman from them and carried her around the corner and back into the building because I didn’t know he already went through there. He was aiming back towards them and about to shoot all three of them. He shot at us while I was running and hit her again while she was on my shoulders. Then he shot the first officer while we tried to treat colonel Warman and the the others in the building. Everyone was dead though, besides colonel Warman. She died enroute to the hospital. Mr Toro came in after the shooter was taken down to help with cpr. My name is Daniel Butler, Soldiers medal for heroism. 2604:5C80:200:E0C:44CB:A629:4C3D:B720 (talk) 20:18, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The reason your contribution keeps getting deleted is that Wikipedia has a hard policy of WP:No original research. People are not allowed to share their personal experiences. Instead, Wikipedia descriptions must be built up as a summary of published material. If your viewpoint isn't published by a reliable source, then it's not part of the literature about the topic, and so it's not part of the summary of the literature.
You should contact a writer who can compile your experience with other ones and publish a fuller description. Or you can research it yourself, interview multiple witnesses, and write your own magazine article. Binksternet (talk) 22:05, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorist shooting??[edit]

Why are you calling this a terrorist shooting?? An enemy military base is a valid target, there is nothing terrorist about it 2804:4FFC:423:ED00:BCEE:172C:B3C0:ECA0 (talk) 22:30, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lawsuits[edit]

This article has a lot of very outdated information on lawsuits – like family members filed a lawsuit in 2011, that was 13 years ago, what has happened since? Well, one problem is the news articles it is relying on don't give case names or numbers, and the article gives the impression there is more than one lawsuit involved. One of them, Manning v Esper, was dismissed in 2019, and I haven't heard anything about it being appealed. This was the lawsuit filed in 2012. The article mentions an earlier lawsuit filed in 2011, but I can't find anything about what happened to it. One assumes it must have been unsuccessful too, since if it had succeeded surely the media would have reported that – but without a case name or number it is very hard to work out. Anyway, someone needs to update these sections of the article, but I'm still trying to work out how best to do that. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 23:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]