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January 29[edit]

Who stayed home for tonight's debate?

Me.-King Toast —Preceding unsigned comment added by King Toast (talk • contribs) 02:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Libertarians[edit]

Is the Libertarian thing really worth such a large section of the article? It's basically a speech that another presidential candidate gave and called the State of the Union. It doesn't really have anything to do with the real speech. (I haven't watched the Libertarian speech, by the way.) I suggest we remove that section. Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JBFrenchhorn (talk • contribs) 02:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Giving your own "State of the Union address" three days before President Bush's speech is not a response. Please reword the article. Kingturtle (talk) 03:45, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It could be, if he was given a leaked text of the speech. I'm sure Gov. Sebelius didn't write her speech in the few minutes after Bush finished his. X3210 (talk) 04:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Democratic "response" isn't normally a response either (same goes for when a Democrat is president and a Republican delevers the "response". It's normally written before hand as well. Jon (talk) 18:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More on the "Libertarian response". They normally release it a few days before the offical one. The major news channels wouldn't cover it if they tried to deliver it right afterwords even if they waited for the offical opposition response. Jon (talk) 18:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The "official" Libertarian response is normally released after the official State of the Union. It is delivered in text by the chair of the Libertarian Party. Kubby's speech was in fact a response -- a preemptive one. As a frontrunner for a political party's presidential nomination, his speech meets noteworthiness standards. As far as the amount of space takes up, it was one paragraph. I agree that the Democratic response may deserve more, and won't object if it gets more. I'll be reverting the article to include the Libertarian content. Thomaslknapp (talk) 20:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

topics[edit]

Before this speech was actually given, this article said "The White House indicated beforehand that the President's speech would mention the following policies", followed by a list of topics.

I see people have added more items to this list after the speech was given -- items that the president did, in fact, cover in his speech (but, as far as I can tell, were not "indicated beforehand"). So:

Should we have 2 lists of topics, the topics that "The White House indicated beforehand" and also a list of topics that were actually mentioned?
Should we have one list that somehow distinguishes between topics that were indicated beforehand, and other additional topics?
Should we focus on the speech itself, rather than previous speculation about what would be in the speech, replacing "The White House indicated beforehand that the President's speech would mention the following policies" with "The speech mentions the following policies", followed by one list that only lists things that were in the actual speech?

--68.0.124.33 (talk) 16:16, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be replaced entirely with a list of topics he actually did cover in the speech. Granted, it's probably very similar. Jon (talk) 18:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2009 State of the Union speech[edit]

I saw references to this in the history section. Yes, there will most likely be one regardless of who wins the '08 election, it will be sometime after the new President is sworn into office. Generally it's been about two weeks after the new president is sworn in years in which that occurs. Jon (talk) 18:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but it's not referred to as an official SOTU speech – but as an "Address to Congress." Official State of the Union addresses are usually given after the sitting president's been in office for a year. —Micahbrwn (talk) 19:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kind of... smart![edit]

Who wrote his speech? Sounded Democratic. Basketball one 10 00:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barring unimaginable circumstances?[edit]

What is meaning of this phrase - "Barring unimaginable circumstances" - in the first paragraph, and what is its purpose? 71.134.247.208 (talk) 02:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kubby[edit]

I have removed the ref. linking to Kubby's "State of the Union" speech. I still question whether this information is even noteworthy enough to include in the article. See above section titled Libertarians. What do you think? JBFrenchhorn (talk) 01:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]