Talk:1984 Atlantic hurricane season

Image sources

Where do you find those satellite images? juan andrés 02:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Below. ;) Really, though, the website is located http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/rsad/gibbs/gibbs.html It has satellite images of the entire world, every three hours, for every year back to 1983. I will get 1983's Atlantic ones tomorrow, though the rest of the world is up for grabs. Hurricanehink 02:58, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

OK :) juan andrés 05:08, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Hurricanehink, I'm bringing good news, there will not be to much work tomorrow, only 3 storms to upload. Alicia is in the infobox ;) juan andrés 05:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Sweet, and I think the Monthly Weather Review has all three of them. Hurricanehink 13:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Images of each storm

• Subtropical Storm One
• Tropical Storm Arthur
• Tropical Storm Bertha
• Tropical Storm Cesar
• Tropical Storm Edouard
• Tropical Storm Fran
• Tropical Storm Gustav
• Hurricane Hortense
• Tropical Storm Isidore
• Hurricane Josephine
• Hurricane Klaus

Done. 3 more to go. Hurricanehink 02:46, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Wont be storm pics for 1979 season and older?

Just asking juan andrés 04:07, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

The only problem is the website I'm using only goes back to 1983, and the Monthly Weather Review has pictures for every storm for 1981 and 1982. 1979 and 1978 don't have any, but 1977 and I believe 1976 can be done once I finish 1983-2004. Hurricanehink 13:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Edouard

Edouard was quite a storm. Jdorje 04:26, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. A rare fish Gulf of Mexico storm, though much of its large circulation was over land. Hurricanehink 13:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Good, thanks. Hurricanehink 02:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Done

This page work is already over. I hope you like. juan andrés 02:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Seeing Double

Is im seeing double? or that Hurricane Josephine (1984) picture looks excatily like the Hurricane Bertha (1990) picture?

Hurricane Josephine

Hurricane Bertha

Storm05 18:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Wow, they are pretty similar! Hurricanehink 00:38, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Just fixing the Bertha image to be at Bertha (check the page history to see why).--Nilfanion (talk) 22:33, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Heads up - Late November 1984 Nor'easter

A new article is located at November 1984 Nor'easter in anticipation of a deep closed cyclone offshore Florida in the next few days, since it might be a good parallel to the upcoming event. Why does it require a mention in this article? Because there is a reference mentioning that it may have briefly transitioned into a tropical or subtropical cyclone late in its life cycle near Bermuda. The cyclone is currently not included in the NHC hurricane track database. I will leave it up to you all whether you want it included into this article. Just an FYI. Thegreatdr 04:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Possible September Storm

This article covers a possible tropical storm that struck Texas in September which dropped heavy rainfall. It might be worth putting into an Other storms section, along with the aforementioned November nor'easter. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Some tropical depression information

Note that this is for information use only, and not reference-able. It should help you in your search for information. Happy hunting. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• 10320 6/11/1984 M= 4 1 SNBR= 164 XING=0 TD1
• 10330 6/11* 0 0 0 0* 0 0 0 0*280 755 20 0*282 758 25 0*
• 10340 6/12*284 765 25 0*287 772 30 0*289 778 30 0*290 783 30 0*
• 10350 6/13*292 791 30 0*296 799 30 0*298 803 25 0*299 810 25 0*
• 10360 6/14*302 818 0 0* 0 0 0 0* 0 0 0 0* 0 0 0 0*
• 10370 TD
• 10380 6/18/1984 M= 3 2 SNBR= 165 XING=0 TD2
• 10390 6/18* 0 0 0 0* 0 0 0 0*205 940 20 0*208 948 20 0*
• 10400 6/19*210 955 25 0*212 962 25 0*216 968 30 0*219 972 30 0*
• 10410 6/20*221 980 30 0*227 985 0 0* 0 0 0 0* 0 0 0 0*
• 10420 TD
• 10430 7/24/1984 M= 3 3 SNBR= 166 XING=0 TD3
• 10440 7/24* 0 0 0 0*118 478 25 0*120 500 25 0*127 521 25 0*
• 10450 7/25*130 545 30 0*133 569 30 0*139 590 30 0*142 615 30 0*
• 10460 7/26*145 635 30 0*148 658 25 0*150 680 25 0*152 702 20 0*
• 10470 TD
• 10530 9/ 6/1984 M= 3 5 SNBR= 168 XING=0 TD7
• 10540 9/ 6* 0 0 0 0* 0 0 0 0*210 960 20 0*213 961 25 0*
• 10550 9/ 7*218 963 25 0*220 966 30 0*223 968 30 0*227 971 30 0*
• 10560 9/ 8*230 978 25 0*232 981 0 0* 0 0 0 0* 0 0 0 0*
• 10570 TD

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1984 Atlantic hurricane season/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 20:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Criterion

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   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   GA!

To Work On list (specifics)

Use the templates in the show box below to comment on how the tasks are going.

• 2a: Reference 4, inaccessable. Any other format?

 Done Understood. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

• 2b: Newspapers: Can we get a better source? (1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 9)

 Question: I meant could we find a link to the actual article (or is it on a different site with full text?) -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

• 2b: Ref 1, incorrectly referenced.

 Not done Philadelphia Daily News vs. The Miami Herald. That is the problem. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 00:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

• 2a: 12 (now 14), Linkable?

 Not done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 00:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

• 2a: some sources are the same. Merge them with WP:REFLINKS.

 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

• 2b: section 2 unsourced.

 Done Should be ok as is. The more we can include the better. WP:PSTS Exception in this case. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

• 2b: Can we get a little more sourcing on TS Arthor?

 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

• 2b: Facts unsourced for Hurricane Klaus & Lili

 Done -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Please do not change the status of the criterion, the reviewer will change that their selfs. Let me know when the review is done. I'm assuming it's still in progress, since there are no comments by the reviewer. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:51, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

For reference 1, you need to explain to me what you mean by "incorrectly referenced." I was using it as independent support for the depression's existence. If it's not needed, we could get rid of it. Reference 4 is accessable, but you have to download the free viewer at this web address first. As for the newspaper articles, all I can do (and have done) is back up the tropical depressions with the CLIQR database, which is a version of the extended best track database I've been using at work for use in the tropical cyclone rainfall climatology. Other than newspaper articles, there is no information for the TDs other than the track, because the National Hurricane Center did not write individual storm reports on TDs that far back in time, and, between 1981-1987, did not publish their annual tropical weather systems article either. There just simply isn't any other source for TD information for most of the 1980s.

I understand why you think there are identical sources in the reference section. Click on them. I can assure you they are different pages, though they are of the same parent document. For whatever reason, the National Hurricane Center scanned their tropical cyclone reports in such a way that different pages of the same document are at different web addresses. Therefore, I cannot group those references together with names, like I did with the CLIQR database. As for the ACE statistics, the wikipedia page used as a source uses information from HURDAT to compute it. If this is disallowed, I'll have to remove the section, because there is no way to source it. Just let me know. I have added additional refs for Arthur, Klaus, and Lili, per your request. Thegreatdr (talk) 14:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your pacientce and sorry for the delay. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Your third and fourth items were easy to fix. As for a better site with those newspaper articles, there used to be the hurricane archive, which had links to the whole newspaper page. That site and its refs went away fairly recently. The refs we have are the best we could find, for the time being. If better sites present themselves for those newspaper articles, we'll link to them. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, I understand. Good job, your article is now at GA Status. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 00:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Tropical Depression number for 1984

This has become a minor issue lately as to whether there were 17, 18, or 19 TDs in 1984. If you use NHC's non-development database, you could come up with 20, though one was clearly an extratropical cyclone on NMC surface weather maps when it was near Florida, which is why 20 isn't viable. The system in their non-developmental database in early August northeast of Bermuda was well out at sea and at the limb of Meteosat imagery in the cold sector of the main polar front (it nearly appears frontal itself though from that angle it's questionable). Another question is whether we are to follow current guidelines (where subtropical and tropical depression numbers are counted together) or 1984 guidelines, where subtropical storms/depressions were on a different numbering system? Curious what you all think, because I'm not clear. Thegreatdr (talk) 15:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Hurricane Lili (1984) into 1984 Atlantic hurricane season

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Fails WP:NWX since there was minimal damage. Some text from this article could be incorporated into the season article. Noah, AA^Talk 14:27, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support As the article is tiny and can clearly fit. 108.58.37.250 (talk) 22:07, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support merge – There is little there that justifies a standalone article for this hurricane. All pertinent and noteworthy details from this thin article can easily fit into the season article. Drdpw (talk) 21:07, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Not that significant of an off-season storm, even if it was one of only a few December hurricanes (Nicole 98 didn't last either). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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