Talk:1908 NSWRFL season

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Table[edit]

Think about the table for a minute

Why was Cumerland the only team to only play 8 games when every other team played nine? That's because Cumberland came into the comptition in round 2 on May 9 and was given two points for a round one bye and was later give a second bye on August 8. In researching our book on 'The History of Rugby League Clubs' (New Holland, Sydney 2004) Ian Collis and I found a newspaper clipping of a ladder showing Cumberland with TWO byes .. this means they did not finish with the wooden spoon. Alan Whiticker —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alanwhit (talk • contribs) 11:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted basically because the table coding was a little stuffed up. But nevertheless, why would the league award a new team with 2 points in a round they never played? That seems kind of unfair to the teams that did compete in round 1. I'm sure this wasn't the case... mdmanser 12:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The ladder from the paper (https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15012436) shows Cumberland with 2 byes, but also 6 points - the ladder here has them on 4 with an odd and unreferenced claim of point deduction. The newspaper also has Cumberland below Newtown, who have four points (who actually should have five). This suggests to me some conflicting views about how many points they actually had (and therefore their position on the ladder). Furthermore the first round bye for Cumberland was added after the fact at some point, e.g. it wasn't there at the start of June (https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14937133). So far from clear IMO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.18.3.62 (talk) 06:47, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]



The reason to award a new team a round 1 bye was to ENCOURAGE the club to enter the competition ... it was not particulalry fair that Cumberland only had eight games while every other team played nine, either. Theoretically, Cumberland could have been disadvantaged in making the top four becuase of this anomally of only playing eight matches. Whatever the reason, you can't rewrite history ... the NSWRFL awarded Cumberland two byes and the club did not finish last despite the fact that most modern writers / statistions ASSUME that the Cumberlanders had one bye like every other club. Alan Whiticker —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.76.142.210 (talk) 11:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alan's published work which cites this fact is an abundantly adequate source reference. unless md you have some citable basis for your comment "I'm sure this wasn't the case " ? -Sticks66 (talk) 13:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I may, I'd like to add to this that some sources (one being the 1987/88 yearbook) have Easts finishing on top of the table. At first I wondered if this was merely an alphabetical thing, but later seasons have ladders where teams on the same points finishing above another despite being later in the alphabet (due to superior points differential). Which leads me to thinking, why are Easts on top? In looking at the season results, Easts played Souths in round 3 and won 13-12. Perhaps it is worth researching whether they were awarded first position by virtue of their win against Souths. Azkatro (talk) 02:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC) Just to add, I found this quip from Sean Fagan's website (http://www.rl1908.com/clubcomps/play-offs.htm): "Apart from when two teams finished the regular season in equal first place (as in 1908), the minor premiers entered the Final with the advantage of knowing that a draw (as in 1910) would secure the title, while a loss would result in a second Final and chance for redemption." Which suggests that there was no single "minor premier" in 1908 and that Souths and Easts finished equal top. Which would explain why the ladder I found has Easts ahead (but it doesn't have ranking). They would both be first though, according to that ... Azkatro (talk) 02:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I reckon Easts were on top simply because the reporter/compiler of that table didn't have the same clarity of mind about how the ladder should be constructed as we would today. It's quite sloppy in other respects, I mean how could 4 come above 6, and have draws gather no points? Relying on this for a two bye scenario is not justified IMO. I will change it back to the more accepted form as laid by the 2005 Official Rugby League Annual (p186) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.71.154 (talk) 09:18, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Remington Gilbert[edit]

I'm doubtful about the addition of Ben Remington and Mat Gilbert as Roosters centres and think this might be vandalism. Please add a citation or asset the verification here or I'll revert in due course. -Sticks66 (talk) 21:28, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

now deleted -Sticks66 (talk) 02:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Map locations[edit]

Hi. Great work on the page btw. The location of the Wests logo looks too far west to me. I'm assuming they were more based in the Ashfield/Lidcombe area in those days and would therefore be to the east of Cumberland (which I assume to be in the Parramatta region). Tigerman2005 (talk) 11:57, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Extra references and citations[edit]

I put in 6 extra references to two books, which record the 1908 NSWRFL inaugural season "The Master " 1982 and the revised and totally rewritten "The Master" (2007). Any more required anywhere?Gladiator-Citizen (talk) 01:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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