Talk:Álvaro Obregón

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Untitled[edit]

The article seems to have good information so far, but simply needs more. Without being a scholar on Latin America, I couldn't say what specifically, but it simply needs to be fleshed out.

Wonderful City[edit]

It has been my pleasure to visit Ciudad Obregon (on business) twice in the past 12 months. The people are gracious and kind, well-educated with a pride in their region that is well-deserved. The hospitality and food are second to none and the rich cultural heritage of the people is woven throughout. A wonderful area with great people! -- 63.215.28.115 12:49, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you enjoyed your visits. However, this article is about the President of Mexico that gave its name to this town, not about the town itself. Hari Seldon 17:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Birth[edit]

Linda Hall, in her biography of Obregón, Álvaro Obregón: Power and Revolution in Mexico, says that his date of birth is February 17, 1880.Ramon4 (talk) 03:26, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His date of birth appears to be rather murky. A quick search with "Alvaro Obregon" 1880 in Google Books shows:

"Obregón had been born on February 17, 1880..." Alvaro Obregon: Power and Revolution in Mexico, 1911-1920 by Linda B. Hall Page 19
"He was born on 19 February 1880, at Siquisiva, a hacienda..." Mexico‎, Peter Calvert, - Page 173
"Alvaro nació el 17 de febrero de 1880 en la hacienda Siquisiva, del distrito de Alamos..." La niñez de personalidades mexicanas‎ - Hernán Rosales, Page 109
"Obregón vio la luz en el rancho de Siquisiva, Son., el 19 de febrero de 1880" Los gobiernos de Obergón: Calles y regímenes "peleles" derivados del callismo‎ Juan Gualberto Amaya Page 381
"He was born Alvaro Obregon Salido on February 19, 1880, at Siquisiva Ranch near Navojoa" Wars of the Americas: A Chronology of Armed Conflict in the Western Hemisphere, David Marley, Page 952.
"Obregón (Salido), Alvaro (Deceased July 17, 1928) A) February 19, 1880. B| Hacienda de Siquisiva, Navojoa, Sonora" Mexican political biographies, 1884-1935‎, Roderic Ai Camp, Page 155.
"Nació en la Hacienda de Siquisiva, Sonora, el 19 de febrero de 1880..." En un día como hoy: efemérides de la historia de México‎, Sofía García Murillo, Page 162.

I reverted the last version because I took a quick glance at Encarta (which states that he was born on the 19th) but I didn't know there were different sources claiming he was born on the 17th, so feel free to indicate the discrepancy in the article.- Esteban Zissou (talk) 20:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Irish Ancestry[edit]

Something should also be said of his Irish ancestry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.249.137 (talk) 02:53, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assassin's name[edit]

This article, "Believe Assassin Religious Fanatic". The Daily Journal-Gazette. Mattoon, Illinois. 18 July 1928 – via Newspapers.com. gives the assassin's name as "Juan Escapulario". Is this an alias or is something else going on?--Auric talk 00:59, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

garbanzos are chickpeas[edit]

Garbanzos and chickpeas art the same thing. It is confusing to use the words interchangeably in the article, especially without explicitly stating they are the same. We should use one term consistently.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:32, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relations with Villa, June–September 1914[edit]

This section is only 2 paragraphs, but it seems to be trying to pack too much in those paragraphs. It also at times seems to come close to violating NPOV. A revision may well be in order.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Break with Carranza, 1917–1920[edit]

Paragraphs 3 and 5 in this section cover a lot of the same matieral. Paragraph's 5 opening seems particularly out of order. Someone needs to see how these might be harmonized to reduce redundancy. Also, we may need to cut back on coatracking about Carranza.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]