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@Narky Blert:, perhaps my proposal was not clearly worded, as it has nothing to do with any of those categories. I am solely concerned here with Category:Redirects from sort names (which is a basic maintenance category, and can not be emptied or closed). That category and its subcategory for ambiguous sort names, are the ones I would like to subdivide. bd2412T 21:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@BD2412: With that more limited purpose in mind: I would suggest subdividing (a) alphabetically, and (b) by the sortkey on the top-level article. Taking my two examples: Agatha Christie would be sorted as "Cristie, Agatha" and Cheers as "Cheers". Taking your example: Dudley Smith would be sorted as "Smith, Dudley". People are accustomed to look for prime words like programme titles and surnames; much less so for given names. Narky Blert (talk) 21:55, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@BD2412: Coming by chance across this discussion again has reminded me of what I see as a problem. {{R from sort name}} is {{printworthy}}, and it doesn't accept an 'unprintworthy' parameter. Adding {{unprintworthy}} classifies the redirect both ways. This means that in the hypothetical printed Wikipedia index, appear both Einstein, Albert and Albert Einstein (DEFAULTSORTed as 'Einstein, Albert'). The same is true for those few {{hndis}} pages which have a sortname redirect (which was how I noticed this issue). IMO {{R from sort name}} should be unprintworthy by default, because it is almost axiomatic that that the redirect and the target will have the identical sortkey. Narky Blert (talk) 11:36, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]