[Wikipedia-l] Survey replies

Tue Nov 12 03:41:18 UTC 2002

I'd better report on two private replies I received to my survey.
Further replies to my survey should go to the list.  Here were the two
replies.

First reply:
Issue 1: Yes, it is a serious problem and it exists.
Issue 2: The Moderators Option

Second reply:
>ISSUE 1.  The problem or lack thereof.
I don't agree with either your pro or your con.  Yes, there is a
problem, yes people can often be guided not to be a problem, yes it's
happened before, no it's not happening now (and I'm part of the
problem in that regard, b/c I've not been active on the pedia lately
and would have made considerable strides towards calming e.g. Lir if
at all possible).

>ISSUE 2.  What to do about the problem, if anything.
>The Status Quo, Plus Clearer Principles Option: We need to debate and
>settle upon some clear principles about when sanctions are to be meted out
>by our sysops.
yes.  we do.  I think we've grown past the point where community norms
are obvious, and the more we grow the less obvious they will be (and
the less normative also).

The only consensus I see developing is the need for more clearly stated
community standards.  I certainly agree with that myself.

Larry
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"We have now sunk to a depth at which the re-statement of the obvious is
the first duty of intelligent men." --George Orwell