Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Taiwan/Archive 8

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Addition of Pe̍h-ōe-jī

Jen KRT (talk · contribs) has been making edits en masse to the romanization of Chinese names, adding Pe̍h-ōe-jī and often Pe̍h-ōe-jī alone. In most of the edits, there seems to be no direct connection between the subject of the article and Minnan, of which POJ is the romanization. According to MOS:CHINESE, Pinyin is the primary representation to be used. The article Pe̍h-ōe-jī also states that outside Taiwan, POJ is rarely used, and that even within Taiwan, it is not the official romanization for Minnan. Therefore, I consider it undue to add POJ to an article's romanizations unless there is a direct connection to it. Also pinging Dawkin Verbier. intforce (talk) 15:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, hanyu pinyin should be the main transliteration. This is even more true in contemporary mainland China articles like Xie Hua'an. That article's lead currently only gives POJ (and traditional characters instead of simplified), so that should be changed.

In general it doesn't hurt much to add another transliteration to Infobox Chinese, so if someone finds it useful, I'm inclined to err on the side of allowing POJ in the infobox for Taiwan articles (but hanyu pinyin should always be included too). —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 18:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

I agree. Allowing it in the infobox doesn't hurt if pinyin is already there, but adding it in the lead sentence leads to unnecessary clutter. The lead sentence should be restricted to pinyin (traditional and/or simplified). intforce (talk) 18:09, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Huang Guo-shu#Requested move 11 January 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Huang Guo-shu#Requested move 11 January 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 09:09, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikimania 2023 : Singapore, 16-19 August

Wikimedians! You are highly encouraged to apply for travel scholarship for Wikimedia Movement's largest gathering, Wikimania 2023. Wikimania 2023 will happen in Singapore and online from 16-19 August, 2023. There is a pre-conference on the 15th and a post-conference on the 20th. It is back on our region since Hong Kong in 2013. Application deadline is on 5 February 2023 at 23:59 AoE. Regular registration will happen around May 2023. --Exec8 (talk) Exec8 (talk) 07:45, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Structure of the ROC/Taiwan parliament

There is a discussion at Talk:List_of_legislatures_by_number_of_members#Republic_of_China that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. It revolves around whether the list should reflect the organization as envisioned in the original Constitution of the Republic of China, or after the various Additional Articles of the Constitution of the Republic of China. Recent edits favor the former, on the argument that the latter only result in de facto rather than de jure changes. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 21:44, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Go for it. I’ll be ready. 76.68.77.224 (talk) 22:21, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Discussion on disallowing use of the ʻokina in Chinese romanized article titles

There is currently a discussion that may interest you. Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Disallowing use of the ʻokina in Chinese romanized article titles proposes that the ʻokina gennerally be prohibited from article titles derived from Chinese whenever it does not adhere to the English Wikipedia policy to use commonly recognizable names. Plese join the discussion. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 17:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

How to deal with flag

Hi! I've put through Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2007 World Cup of Pool/archive1 at FAC, and someone has mentioned that there was some inconsistency in the description and the draw - that sources state the team playing was representing Taiwan, whilst sources also use the Chinese Taipei flag for the same team. it's a bit of a mess, and not one I know how to solve easily. I'd suggest it's both a translation and ignorance thing on behalf of the sources, but I also don't know much about the subject and how it should be managed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:46, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

The general consensus is if it involves about Taiwan/ROC alone or within Taiwan/ROC only, then use ROC flag. If it involves in international sporting competition, then use Chinese Taipei flag. Chongkian (talk) 00:40, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:41, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject Asian Australians

Hi,

I am looking for members to join WikiProject Council/Proposals/Asian Australians.

I figured that some members of WikiProject Taiwan might want to help contribute to the proposed WikiProject.

Let me know if you are interested!

Thanks, AverageFraud (talk) 09:20, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Contemporary visual art in Taiwan

I'm interested in improving articles on contemporary art in Taiwan, particularly about notable artists starting in the 1980s–1990s. We already have Wu Mali, Wu Tien-chang, Hou Chun-Ming, and Yang Maolin, but from that cohort we're missing Chen Chieh-Jen, Mei Dean-E, and Yao Jui-Chung, among others.

I'd appreciate if a more established editor could review/approve my article on Draft:Yao_Jui-Chung. Also, are the references I've added to Yang Maolin sufficient to remove the "inline citations" warning banner? Christopher Lee Adams (talk) 10:19, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Christopher Lee Adams, thank you for working on these artists! I think your work on Yang Maolin is more than sufficient to remove the banner, so I have done that. It would help if you could make your citations a bit more precise, though (don't cite a whole book without giving page numbers; in the referencing style you use, the easiest would be to use {{rp}}) and to use identifiers like ISBNs or DOI or OCLC (or even Google Books links) to make it easier for others to follow your citations. The draft looks good to me, but I didn't fully understand why @Onel5969 draftified in in the first place, so perhaps they can clarify? —Kusma (talk) 13:55, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your help @Kusma and for the tip about the reference pages template! Christopher Lee Adams (talk) 15:17, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Because their is a UPE/COI issue. Which was explained on the editor's talk page. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:57, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

@Onel5969, what is the UPE/COI issue here? —Kusma (talk) 17:10, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Proposed merger

There is a merge discussion at Talk:Cross-Strait relations. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

The discussion has been closed already, with the result of not-merging. Chongkian (talk) 01:49, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports#Footnote , which is within the scope of this WikiProject. 寒吉 (talk) 09:57, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Republic of China (disambiguation) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Republic of China (disambiguation) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Republic of China (disambiguation) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:11, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon

Hello WikiProject Taiwan:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

Grnrchst (talk) 14:00, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Southern Min

Template:Southern Min has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Arctic Circle System (talk) 07:01, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Expertise would be appreciated at Articles for Creation

Hello! As the members of this WikiProject are likely aware, the Taiwan 1000 WikiProject has been making many new drafts lately on interesting topics related to Taiwan. At Articles for Creation, these drafts sometimes take a while to find a reviewer who can properly assess them (or, if needed, polish them for mainspace). I wanted to suggest that the editors here could consider joining our AfC backlog elimination drive, or assist by looking for current submissions or recent creations to improve. It would be especially useful to make sure these articles have trans-wiki links when they are translations, and to confirm that the subjects are being referred to with appropriate English-language names. There are also some cases where the translations could use more attention. The more polished a draft is, the easier it is for an AfC reviewer to evaluate it.

I just wanted to suggest taking a look at AfC in case it caught anyone's interest. Happy editing! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:27, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Sz'kwa

Hi WP Taiwan, happy new year. The article for sz'kwa was recently tagged as unreferenced but I haven't been able to find any/many high-quality sources. Can anyone confirm this spelling of the game or provide the Chinese characters? When I saw the spelling, my first thought was that this was a location in Poland. Thank you! Kazamzam (talk) 17:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

That spelling isn't from one of the most popular Chinese romanization systems, but if it's a Mandarin transliteration, the pinyin representation is probably either "sigua" or "sikua". I've done a bit of searching in English and Chinese and can't find anything. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 03:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for EVA Air

EVA Air has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)