Talk:The Great Game of Genocide

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Controversy[edit]

Typographic mistakes example:

Gourard for Henri Gouraud (general) - Wikipedia The Great Game of Genocide: Imperialism, Nationalism, and the Destruction of ... - Donald Bloxham - Google Books

Typographic mistake & Categoric Mistake example:

Radjun for Radju as well as the Osmaniye-İslahiye-Radju military supply line was a railway, not a road also seen here: The Great Game of Genocide: Imperialism, Nationalism, and the Destruction of ... - Donald Bloxham - Google Books

Categoric Mistake example:

Adalia he wrote the Greeks destroyed the Muslim parts of Adalia (Antalya) The Great Game of Genocide: Imperialism, Nationalism, and the Destruction of ... - Donald Bloxham - Google Books

etc. Utku Öziz (talk) 21:09, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Consider reading WP:OR. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Links are accessible [1], [2]. Yücel Güçlü, a career diplomat in the Turkish Foreign Ministry, doesn't even call it Armenian genocide and refers to the genocide as "Armenian events", typical denialist description. We aren't going to use a genocide denier as a criticism of this book. Here's just a portion from the review of one of Güçlü's books [3];

Whereas Ugur Ümit Üngör and Mehmet Polatel have produced a starkly realistic and thoroughly researched account in Confiscation and Destruction: The Young Turk Seizure of Armenian Propertywith Continuum in 2011, acknowledging that what occurred to the Ottoman Armenians in 1915 and 1916 was undoubtedly a genocide, Yucel Güçlü in his Armenians and the Allies in Cilicia, 1914–1923 with University of Utah Press (published only a year earlier) has produced a methodologically flawed account that rejects the label of genocide for the very same events.
This has much to do with the authors themselves. Whereas Üngör is an academic and Polatel an aspiring one, Güçlü is first counsellor of the Turkish Embassy in Washington D.C., and therefore not an academic, but a member of the Turkish Foreign Affairs Department, which has since its inception propagated the view that what befell the Ottoman Armenians was not a genocide. So clearly Güçlü carries on his shoulders some very heavy baggage as a member of a Turkish government department, while Üngör and Polatel have no ties to the Turkish state.

Someone like Güçlü is never WP:RS for topics related to Armenian genocide or the genocide itself. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]