Talk:Stuyvesant Cove Park

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Category:Midtown Manhattan in article[edit]

I removed this category because it's already a part of Category:Kips Bay, Manhattan, which is part of Midtown, and also because this is not usually considered within Midtown, like 42nd Street is. If anything, this is closer to the East Village than to Midtown. Epicgenius (talk) 22:44, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it's not unusual to define Midtown as a "meta-neighborhood" which starts at 23rd Street and goes up 59th Street -- that's how the AIA Guide defines it. (The Encyclopedia of NYC uses 34th to 59th.)

The problem with Stuyvesant Cove Park is that it runs from 23rd Street down to 15th Street -- that's no-man's-land are far as neighborhoods are concerned. It's not Ki['s Bay, which starts at 23rd Street and goes north, it's not the East Village, because that starts at 14th Street and goes south (and although it connects to East River Park, it's clearly a different park that abruptly stops at 15th Street at a ConEd building right on the water). It could be considered to be Gramercy, if there weren't the gigantic Stuyvesant Town-Peter Cooper Village complex between the actual Gramercy neighborhood and the river.

The crux of the problem is that StuyTown/PCV really is a neighborhood in and of itself, but because it's a development it's got very hard boundaries the way an ordinary neighborhood doesn't have, so it stops at Ave C. That leaves a rump of a neighborhood between Ave C and the river, from Murphy Park (where East 17th Street would be) down to 14th Street. The large majority of this is taken up by the ConEd plant, so it doesn't really need a neighborhood name -- but it leave a quandry for us as to how to categorize where Stuyvesant Cove Park is. BMK (talk) 00:10, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The boundaries here are really confusing, so I'll just leave it. Epicgenius (talk) 12:17, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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