This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Ruggero Santilli article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
Please stay calm and civil while commenting or presenting evidence, and do not make personal attacks. Be patient when approaching solutions to any issues. Ifconsensus is not reached, other solutions exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.
This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourcedmust be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Physics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Physics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PhysicsWikipedia:WikiProject PhysicsTemplate:WikiProject Physicsphysics articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Alternative views, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of significant alternative views in every field, from the sciences to the humanities. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion.Alternative ViewsWikipedia:WikiProject Alternative ViewsTemplate:WikiProject Alternative ViewsAlternative Views articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Chemistry, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of chemistry on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChemistryWikipedia:WikiProject ChemistryTemplate:WikiProject ChemistryChemistry articles
The following Wikipedia contributors may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view.
The following Wikipedia contributors may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view.
The following Wikipedia contributors may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view.
The following Wikipedia contributors may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view.
The following Wikipedia contributors may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view.
The Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see WP:COIRESPONSE.
Mr RD (talk·contribs) has been paid by Brian Buckley on behalf of Ruggero Santilli. Disclosed here
2) I have removed the second line "Mainstream scientists dismiss his theories as fringe science.[1]" and replaced with "originator of hadronic mechanics and chemistry" because mainstream scientists do not consider "fringe science" a lifelong dedication to the verification of the EPR Argument, and also because the current line is demeaning for the Unites States of America according to countless complaints on record throughout two decades.
3) In the 6th line of Biography I changed
"a one man organization, [3] the Institute for Basic Research" into "the Institute for Basic Research [3]" because the "one man"
claim is grossly disproved by the main page of the IBR i-b-r(dot)org/ that has been listing for years a division in Israel headed by Prof. P. Mandell, a division in Kazakstan headed by Prof. A. K. Aringazin, and a division in Nigeria headed by Prof. A. O. E . Animalu, while
stating from its inception " The Institute Statute does not allow the disclosure of their names, but their work can be identified by searching the various scientific archives under".
4) The word "Jewish" physicists etc. has been removed everywhere and replaced with "mainstream orthodox" physicists, etc. because: the word "Jewish" it does not exist in Il Grande Grido; Santilli son in law is Jewish; Santilli is known to have supported several Jewish physicists for their participation to meeting; and the recent International Teleconference on Einstein's Determinism (http://eprdebates.org/epr-conference-2020.php) has been organized by Santilli in collaboration with the Family of Israel Foundation (http://www.i-b-r.org/translational-medicine.htm);
5) The entire paragraph starting with "After an explosion..." because Santilli's lawsuit against Frank Israel .[20][22][23] contains documentation and testimonials that Magnegas stockholders, including myself, had suffered financial losses because of misrepresentations in Wikipedia's article on Santilli suitable for shorting the stock. In fact, the bottles that caused the indicated accidents were delivered by Magnegas Distributors and not by the factory that, as such has been removed by any and all liabilities. In any case, the listing in an article dedicated to a scientist of deaths occurred several years after the scientist left the company is blatantly questionable.
6) I have added information on Thunder Energies Corporation, whose documentation is available in the corporate SEC filings (that I cannot list here due to the prohibition to edit the references), the sale of the public shell and the transfer of the ownership of all technologies to the private company
Hadronic Technologies Corporation for possible applications of the main technologies to National Security.
7) I have removed completely the statement starting with "In 2017 an article...." because of the evident loss of credibility by Wikipedia treating equivocal internet gossip in an article that is supposed to be eventually dedicated to the proof of the most important prediction by Einstein.
8) I added the section on Honors from the CV [2] as quoted independently by various sources. We believe it is demeaning for Wikipedia not to quote honors received by the scientists who spent his research life to prove that Einstein was right.
9) I added in the section "Selected Publications" the main papers presenting Santilli's claimed verifications of the EPR and I relisted, for their understanding, Santilli's "Elements of Hadronic Mechanics" that were removed by the article for reasons damaging Wikipedia because, according to the record under History, said volumes were accepted by t he Ukraine Academy of Science following severe reviews by highly qualified scientists, such as t he late Klimik, Sissakian, and others. I also added
mathematical, physical and chemical papers published in refereed journals in which Santilli is not an editor, which papers are essential for the understanding of the apparent EPR verifications.
In closing allow me to recommend that the article be completed wiuth a section entitled "Research" since all visitors are expecting news on Santilli's apparent verifications of the EPR argument, while now there is none. I can draft this section, but I would need access to the References. Thank you. Jolli321 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jolli321 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 22 October 2020. NOTE: My above specified editing of Santilli's 'article' was removed by David Epstein in about three minutes following its posting. (UTC)
Can please some more administrative persons who can decide have a look at the above proposed change. I find the page insulting, too, so it should be overworked. Till Meyenburg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:393:31C0:0:0:0:36D9 (talk) 16:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. This page needs an unbiased administrative review in the interest of Wikipedia standing and its role of information vehicle. It is now evident that nobody has been and is allowed to make changes or additions in order to make a fair representation of the contributions of Prof, Santilli who, at age 87, keeps working and publishing in peer-reviewed journals such as Ratio Mathematica 1)[1] and Springer Nature Scientific Reports 2) [2]on subjects that, everybody can see, are vital to science and therefore society .The focus of this Wikipedia article is on events presented in negative light only that occurred almost 10 years ago. His recent article published by Nature and his work on the EPR argument point out to new horizons that lead to possible solutions to the crisis of our environment. By looking at the editing history the page, it is evident that nobody has been able to add this information to Prof. Santilli's page because Wikipedia remains stubbornly stuck on the defamation campaign fueled years ago by bloggers and stock market profiteers. Wikipedia is the loser here. 139.55.184.2 (talk) 21:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Tom Yeager139.55.184.2 (talk)[reply]
.jpg){kind=small}
