Talk:Redemption

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Embedded in the concept of redemption are three salient points: (1) The item to be redeemed is currently in the possession of someone other than the original owner and this person or entity has a legal right to possess and in some cases use the item in question according to the terms of the agreement between the original owner and the current possessor. The "Pawn Shop" is a simple example of this concept. An item is pledged as collateral for a loan and upon payment of the loan the pledged item is "redeemed." (2) The "Redeemer" must possess the capacity to redeem the said item. And (3) The "Redeemer" must have the right to redeem the said item. Depending on the terms of the agreement between the original owner and the current possessor, the Right of Redemption may be limited to the original owner, his successors or an appointed representative. Only when the item is deemed forfeited does the current possessor have the right to dispose of the said item by whatever means necessary to fulfill the terms of the original agreement.

In conclusion it must also be understood that there is an agreement or contract that led to the original transfer of possession. It is not a transfer of ownership, only a transfer of control. And that transfer is only temporary if the terms of the agreement are abided by. So remember, the item to be redeemed has an owner who through an agreement has given temporary control of the item to another. And it is the ultimate desire of the original owner to regain possession and control of the said item.

Redemption vs. Salvation[edit]

Right now, even though they are listed separately on this page, Redemption (religious) redirects to Salvation. The page on salvation is mostly concerned with the Christian concept of salvation, though it does include references to other religions that involve the concept of salvation. What I'm wondering is if there shouldn't be another page for works-redemption. For example, the page for the TV show Angel links here, and I was trying to figure out what specific page on redemption to link it to instead, but redemption for Angel is about doing good to redeem himself for his past sins. There's no real salvation aspect to it, in the Christian sense. Is there a page for this conception of redemption, which is religious only in the merest of ways? faithx5 06:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oprhah teaches mysticism, to be more spesific Christian mysticism, but that has nothing to do with Christianity, which has at its central teaching atonement, which Oprah rejects. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA. (Torchrunner (talk) 02:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Outdated.[edit]

   * Redemption (2009 film), a Western film to be released on February 10, 2009 in the United States.

Shouldn't this really be changed by now? --86.16.45.62 (talk) 03:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In Our Time[edit]

The BBC programme In Our Time presented by Melvyn Bragg has an episode which may be about this subject (if not moving this note to the appropriate talk page earns cookies). You can add it to "External links" by pasting * {{In Our Time|Redemption|p00548vp}}. Rich Farmbrough, 03:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]