Talk:Golden Gate Bridge/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Problems with radio-activity?

I would have read, that there would have been some radio-activity-problem with the bridge, as there Generally could bei some problems with it in respect to perhaps testing of nuclear bombs in the athmosphere; it was perhaps told, that steel would somehow collect (?) the radio-active beams. (?) (With plumbum it could perhaps even be worse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.225.2.161 (talk) 17:25, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2018

ADD to:

Consulting Architect, Irving F. Morrow, wrote the ''Report on Color and Lighting'' to Chief Engineer, [[Joseph B. Strauss]], on April 6, 1935. In his report, he selected low pressure sodium vapor lamps with an amber glow and the most modern available in 1937. In 1972, the lights were replaced with high-pressure sodium vapor lamps.<ref>[http://goldengatebridge.org/research/factsGGBLighting.php Bridge Lighting]</ref><ref>[http://goldengate.org/news/bridge/baybridgecongrats.php The Golden Gate Bridge Congratulates the Bay Bridge for Its New Light Installation]</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Ywm-Ld-3P3oC&pg=PA58&lpg=PA58&dq=Sodium|title=Golden Gate Bridge: History and Design of an Icon|first1=Donald|last1=MacDonald|first2=Ira|last2=Nadel|date=26 March 2013|publisher=Chronicle Books|accessdate=19 October 2018|via=Google Books}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/streetlights/ge_m2.htm|title=GE M-2 Luminaire|author=|date=|website=www.angelfire.com|accessdate=19 October 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3844&pos=13&pid=113821|title=Lighting-Gallery-net - Street Lights of Other States/Golden Gate Bridge Light|author=|date=|website=www.lighting-gallery.net|accessdate=19 October 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://archive.org/details/officialprogramg00unse|title=Official Program Golden Gate Bridge Fiesta|author=|date=19 October 2018|publisher=|accessdate=19 October 2018|via=Internet Archive}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://livingnewdeal.org/projects/golden-gate-bridge-marin-approach-mill-valley-ca/|title=Golden Gate Bridge Marin Approach - Sausalito CA - Living New Deal|author=|date=|website=livingnewdeal.org|accessdate=19 October 2018}}</ref>

69.181.23.220 (talk) 02:51, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. - FlightTime (open channel) 02:58, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

"connecting San Francisco Bay and the Pacific Ocean."

Really, that's the goal of the bridge, to connect a bay to the ocean? (which is already touching the ocean anyway lol)

No the bridge connects San Francisco to Marin County, over the pacific ocean. It's not connecting anything to the ocean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.114.52.10 (talk) 10:52, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Read that opening sentence again. It says it's the bridge spanning the strait "connecting San Francisco Bay and the Pacific Ocean.". HiLo48 (talk) 11:00, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

HiLo48, You are misreading the sentence. The phrase "connecting San Francisco Bay in the Pacific Ocean" is not talking about the bridge, it's talking about the strait. the bridge crosses the strait, and the sentence then goes on to clarify which strait is being crossed. S Philbrick(Talk) 20:00, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Native American Workers

 I thought I remembered a story at one time about the use of Native American Workers on the highest parts of the span because of their ability to resist "height sickness". Is this a myth, and if not why is there no mention in the article? 2600:1702:41D0:4C30:CDCA:8343:E2B9:50BB (talk) 11:32, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Please refer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Gate_Bridge

Joseph Strauss was the preliminary designer of The Golden Gate bridge, along with the other engineers in charge of consulting and design. An architect cannot, by definition, be a lead designer of a suspension bridge seeing as the form the the structure is the main driver of its aesthetic and its form is dictated by science and engineering. Moscow should indeed get credit as one of the designers but not in the same breath as the civil engineers involved.

I am seeing architect in this article mentioned as the designer when he really was the "exterior decorator" of this structure. Also, Othmar Ammann, the Swiss-American civil engineer had a lot to do with the Golden Gate's structural integrity and hence its form, and seeing that Ammann was the permanent bridge engineer of the the 20th century, you would probably want to mention his name over Moscow's.

I am seeing more and more architects come up as designers on these 20th century historical suspension bridges- they were not the primary designers. Not even close. Again, a A bridge's structural components (sizing, geometries, symmetries) are by necessity its inherent form, and the first principle design strategy. Anything afterwards is frosting on a well established cake.

We need to be clear that the great bridges of the world were conceived of and designed by engineers. These beautiful structures get their shape through the knowledge of physics, material science, and through engineers with a high and refined sense of aesthetics.

Thank you,

Nick

2601:18C:4301:1A21:E524:9A28:AD07:1F93 (talk) 23:31, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Introduction

I think someone who knows more about San Francisco than I do should have a look at these rather odd introductory lines, which seem to me to depart markedly from the facts.

Example; "the reason it is called the Golden Gate is because it is made out of gold." Really?

"The Golden Gate Bridge is a suspension bridge spanning the Golden Gate, the one-mile-wide (1.6 km) strait connecting San Francisco Bay and the Pacific Ocean. The Golden Gate Bridge is known as the big expander as they didn't expect to make the bridge so big. The reason it is called the Golden Gate is because it is made out of gold and is a golden way to California and San Francisco. The way to respect all the workers is to take a picture of it and post it on instagram saying #nomorelabor."

Meltingpot (talk) 22:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Handreil

What height was the handrail? Was it really Just 1.2 metres? Could it also be 1.6 metres? I suggest Worldwide there would have been some handrails, that also would have become higher. This would not Seen to be too difficult and too expensive. (?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.225.2.161 (talk) 17:21, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2021

Under "Structural Specifications": CHANGE Since 1964 its main span length has been surpassed by fifteen bridges TO Since 1964 its main span length has been surpassed by seventeen bridges

( Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_suspension_bridge_spans ) 204.87.70.196 (talk) 16:29, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

All done! Thank you for your contributions. TGHL ↗ 17:42, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2021

While reading an old copy of the Popular Mechanics Magazine I came across an article that mentioned that there was a 7 ton locomotive that was buried/encased within the foundation of the bridge. Below is the text from the magazine. Thanks -- Bob Weaver, Columbus, Ohio

Seven Ton Locomotive Imbedded in Golden Gate Bridge Base

  It was no one's intention to seal a locomotive in the cornerstone of the Golden Gate Bridge, but there is nevertheless a seven ton gas engine imbedded in the foundation.   While they were pouring concrete for the piers of the huge suspension bridge a locomotive hauling three carloads of concrete slid on wet rails; the engineer frantically applied the brakes but they failed to stop the train, and just as the engineer jumped, the locomotive plunged 100 feet into the soft concrete of the abutment.   It could not be recovered, and is sealed there for the life of the bridge.

Source: Popular Mechanics Magazine 1937-11, Pg 170A Weaver drafting (talk) 23:57, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

At archive.org: https://archive.org/details/PopularMechanics1937/Popular_Mechanics_11_1937/page/n293/mode/2up Cheers! Doctormatt (talk) 02:02, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

This is an interesting story, but maybe it is not sufficiently relevant for the article? Perhaps WP:NOTEVERYTHING applies here: "Information should not be included in this encyclopedia solely because it is true or useful. A Wikipedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject." Cheers! Doctormatt (talk) 02:13, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Official names of the two towers

Mention if the official names of the two towers are simply North and South. Jidanni (talk) 14:19, 16 December 2022 (UTC)