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@Panamitsu: I wonder if calling this article "Fentanyl daycare incident" is really the best title. To me, the title appears vague and imprecise. Using the word "incident" totally understates the audacity of this criminal behaviour. A young child's life was lost in this case. The usual convention for articles about deaths of people is to give these a title like Death of <person>. Although, for events involving multiple victims, the naming convention is to use the "when" "where" "what" format. Thus the article could also be named "2023 New York daycare fentanyl poisonings", because that is what they were. Before I request a move, what are your thoughts? - Cameron Dewe (talk) 22:43, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cameron Dewe I certainly agree with your change, but it makes me wonder, should the title even have fentanyl in it at this point in time considering that no final verdict has been made that fentanyl was the cause? The fentanyl part really is what makes the case notable so I'm unsure. —Panamitsu(talk) 23:02, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu: That is why I have asked this question. What really is significant here? Is it the death of a single child? Or the circumstances surrounding the poisoning of 4 children in a New York daycare facility? The objective evidence reported would suggest that fentanyl was more probable, than not, involved. While this isn't beyond reasonable doubt needed for a criminal conviction, it does seem to be the most likely explanation of the medical symptoms and treatment when saying this was an accidental death, as there is no contrary explanation for what happened. If you don't want to use the word "fentanyl" in the title, it could be omitted, or the more general "opioid" could be used instead, because the medical treatment using Narcan is for an opioid toxicity. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 00:19, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well I think that we should keep fentanyl then as it is the most significant part of this event. I support your proposed name change. —Panamitsu(talk) 00:59, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cameron Dewe: I forgot to ping you, so I'm pinging you incase you didn't see my reply. Apologies if you've already seen it. —Panamitsu(talk) 02:03, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu: I saw your reply and agree with it. I didn't think it needed a reply as you were agreeing with my proposal, anyway. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 08:06, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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