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Galileo Galilei[edit]
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- Result: Delisted. 20 citation needed tags and no one has stepped up to work on the considerable issues identified. (t · c) buidhe 08:26, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
As was noted this summer, this article has a fair amount of citation needed tags, unsourced paragraphs, and broken citations. I am also concerned about the writing quality given all the short stubby paragraphs in certain sections. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:48, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
On Galileo’s intentions regarding Simplicio[edit]
It is stated in the article (under ”Controversy over heliocentrism”) that: ”Most historians agree Galileo did not act out of malice and felt blindsided by the reaction to his book.” The reference provided for this statement in no way shows that ”most” historians think this way: it only includes the opinions of one historian (Stillman Drake) and one author-journalist (Arthur Koestler) on the matter of whether Simplicio represented Pope Urbanus VIII or not – which is not even directly related to the statement in question (i.e., whether or not Galileo made Simplicio a foolish Aristotelian out of malice towards the pope or not).
In fact, Simplicio says in the Dialogue that he has received his (Aristotelian) views from a ”high and learned person in front of whom one must keep silence”, which could be a reference to the pope even though Simplicio himself does not represent the pope.
Therefore, I propose removing or amending this statement unless concrete evidence of the views of ”most historians” can be shown. 88.115.56.38 (talk) 08:39, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Jupiter's moons - referenced manuscript is probably a forgery[edit]
The section on Jupiter's moons references a draft letter allegedly written by Galileo Galilei and currently held in the University of Michigan Harlan Hatcher Graduate Library.
This draft letter has been recently identified as a probably forgery, as discussed in the following Ars Technica article: https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/librarys-prized-galileo-manuscript-turns-out-to-be-a-clever-forgery/ 195.59.198.57 (talk) 13:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Unity of measure[edit]
I read in the page distances only in miles, I suggest to indicate them also in kilometres 151.43.204.178 (talk) 14:49, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- The word "mile", taken from the sources cited, is a translation of the Italian word "miglio" that occurs in the primary sources. The length of this unit varied from place to place in Italy, and even from time to time in any given place. Presumably, the "mile" which the Accademia del Cimento used would have been the Florentine mile of the 1660s, when the experiment described in the primary source was performed.
- Galileo's description of his experiment was written at Arcetri, just outside Florence, in the 1630s, but no-one, as far as I know, has any idea where or when (or even if) the experiment he described actually took place. It could well have been performed before 1610 when he was living in Padua, so we can't be sure whether the "mile" he was referring to was a Venetian mile of that period, or a Florentine mile of the later period when he was writing.
- I do believe it would be worth adding a footnote giving a brief explanation of the ambiguity in the meaning of the word "mile", and a range of its possible values in kilometres. Judging from the article Italian units of measurement, a range of 1.6 to 1.8km would be about right.
- Freda Nurk (talk) 04:04, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Galileo Galilei[edit]
Galileo di Vincenzo Bonaiuti de' Galilei (15 February 1564 – 8 January 1642) was an Italian astronomer, physicist and engineer, sometimes described as a polymath. Commonly referred to as Galileo, his name was pronounced /ˌɡælɪˈleɪ.oʊ ˌɡælɪˈleɪ.iˌ/ (GAL-ih-LAY-oh GAL-ih-LAY-ee, Italian: [ɡaliˈlɛːo ɡaliˈlɛi]). He was born in the city of Pisa, then part of the Duchy of Florence.[4] Galileo has been called the "father" of observational astronomy,[5] modern-era classical physics,[6] the scientific method,[7] and modern science.[8]
Galileo Galilei Darshan Tarsariya (talk) 16:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
"Middle Finger" on Display[edit]
Is there anything deliberately symbolic about the fact that his middle finger from his right hand is on display. I know what it means today. Did it mean the same thing several centuries ago? Did they take the middle finger for this reason? Is Galileo "giving the finger" to the world, for all eternity? If so, I think the Article should mention it. Darshan Tarsariya (talk) 16:30, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Copied content to "The Assayer".[edit]
Copied "Controversy over comets and The Assayer" to the article "The Assayer". The Cosmic Ocean (talk) 11:27, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Scientific contributions intro blockquote[edit]
Says Wikipedia:Quotations essay:
Quotations should generally be worked into the article text to avoid interrupting the flow. Quotations embody the breezy, emotive style common in fiction, which is generally not suited to encyclopedic writing. Long quotations crowd the article and distract attention from other information.
However, I think this quote is unusually relevant at this place, and well in line with content of the article in general. But maybe it would be better with some text to introduce or comment on the quote. The Cosmic Ocean (Please feel free to modify or undo any of my edits as deemed appropriate.) (talk) 06:02, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Calendar[edit]
Is the date of Galileo's birth (15th February 1564) according to the Julian calendar, which was in force when Galileo was born, or according to the Gregorian calendar, which was introduced when Galileo was 18? 15th February 1564 in the Julian calendar corresponds to 25th February 1564 in the Gregorian calendar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.67.35 (talk) 22:36, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Mythography[edit]
Arthur Koestler writes in The Sleepwalkers (1959):
- "...the fame of this outstanding genius rests mostly on discoveries he never made and on feats he never performed. Contrary to statements in even recent outlines of science, Galileo did not invent the telescope; nor the microscope; nor the thermometer; nor the pendulum clock. He did not discover the law of inertia; nor the parallelogram of forces or motions; nor the sun spots. He made no contribution to theoretical astronomy; he did not throw down weights from the leaning tower of Pisa, and did not prove the truth of the Copernican system. He was not tortured by the Inquisition, did not languish in its dungeons, did not say 'eppur si muove'; and he was not a martyr of science."
I am thinking of adding this to the 'Legacy' section. Is it accurate? Is it worth including? Masato.harada (talk) 15:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds like utter nonsense from someone who also "discussed paranormal phenomena, such as extrasensory perception, psychokinesis and telepathy" - DVdm (talk) 16:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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