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I believe a more fitting title for this article would be "The October 7th Attack" being that it's much more rememberable and easy to say. JamesCook1728 (talk) 01:45, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Add Nat Turner Rebellion in "see also"?
How do people feel about putting the Nat Turner Rebellion in the "See Also" section? Norman Finkelstein for instance is a proponent of this comparison. JDiala (talk) 12:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see a close enough connection to add a link. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 15:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Hanan Yablonka, Michel Nisenbaum, and Orion Hernandez were killed on Oct. 7 at the Mefalsim Intersection and their bodies were taken into Gaza, the Israel Defense Forces said in a statement Friday morning, citing intelligence." Zenon.Lach (talk) 21:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Should we add this? (reported on 24 May 2024)
Hanan Yablonka, Michel Nisenbaum, and Orion Hernandez were killed on Oct. 7 at the Mefalsim Intersection and their bodies were taken into Gaza, the Israel Defense Forces said in a statement Friday morning, citing intelligence." ([1]) Zenon.Lach (talk) 21:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Requested move 26 May 2024
2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October attack – The obvious common name here is the 7 October/October 7 attacks. On Google, there are 117,000 results for "Hamas-led attack on Israel" (even less if you include the year), 252,000 for "7 October attacks" and 1,600,000 for "October 7 attack". October 7 and 7 October even are used by themselves as shorthands for the attack. Ex: "What Really Happened on October 7?" (1), "How Changes in the Israeli Military Led to the Failure of October 7" (2), "October 7th: Through Their Eyes" (3).
It is clear that the name involves "October 7" or some variation + "attack". Of course, October 7th has a higher search rate because of the American date format, but in my opinion, we shouldn't name it that.The attack happened in Israel, and in Israel the format is dmy. An example of this is the 7 July 2005 London bombings. In American media, the attack was referred to as the July 7 bombings. Ex: "July 7 2005 London Bombings Fast Facts" (1), "London Marks the 10th Anniversary of the July 7 Terrorist Attacks" (2). But the article name is 7 July, because that's what the format is in the U.K. I think the same principle should be applied here. Personisinsterest (talk) 23:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Already been discussed. Do you have any new arguments? JDiala (talk) 01:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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