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Reverting vandalism[edit]
Thank you for reverting the edits made by that IPv6 to the release dates of upcoming films. In future it would help stop the vandal faster if you could drop a few warning templates on their talk page per WP:WARNVAND. Thanks! —Smalljim 22:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Gnomes (upcoming film)[edit]
Hello, MikeAllen. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Gnomes".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 22:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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Title credits vs. scrolling credits[edit]
In response to your edit on the Abigail (2024) cast section, I was referring to the title credits, not the scrolling credits. Yes, Matthew Goode is in the scrolling credits at the end of the film, but he is not in the title credits at the beginning of the film. He is also not on the poster's billing block. We usually do not include cast members who aren't on the billing block or in the title credits in the cast list, instead mentioning them in the prose underneath the list. Bluerules (talk) 16:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- The cast list should go by the order (and credited roles) of the end credits scroll (this is how I have always seen it on Wikipedia since 2009). I don't see a reason to drop one actor down under the bullet list. I mean I'm not going to fight over it though. It does look tacky. Mike Allen 16:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree the cast list should go by the order of the scrolling / ending credits. But the guidelines advise us against including every cast member if there are too many. Generally, we limit the cast list to those who are on the billing block of the poster and / or in the title credits to prevent the list from becoming too long and add anyone else of note to prose underneath the cast section. Abigail only has nine credited cast members, so there's obviously room for Goode, but I'm not convinced his placement in the list is warranted since he only has a cameo appearance at the end and he's not on the poster billing block or in the title credits. It's usually the norm to put cast members like Goode outside of the cast list; the Creep (2014 film) article, which has GA status, puts Katie Aselton outside of the cast list and that film only has two credited cast members. Bluerules (talk) 19:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- It sounds more like an editorial decision for what works for that page. Not really a general consensus. Katie Aselton makes an uncredited appearance (which according to WP:FILMCAST, uncredited roles should be sourced), Goode's role is credited. Also, WP:FILMCAST states "Alternatively, a list may be accompanied by prose that discusses only a handful of the cast". Mike Allen 21:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree the cast list should go by the order of the scrolling / ending credits. But the guidelines advise us against including every cast member if there are too many. Generally, we limit the cast list to those who are on the billing block of the poster and / or in the title credits to prevent the list from becoming too long and add anyone else of note to prose underneath the cast section. Abigail only has nine credited cast members, so there's obviously room for Goode, but I'm not convinced his placement in the list is warranted since he only has a cameo appearance at the end and he's not on the poster billing block or in the title credits. It's usually the norm to put cast members like Goode outside of the cast list; the Creep (2014 film) article, which has GA status, puts Katie Aselton outside of the cast list and that film only has two credited cast members. Bluerules (talk) 19:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)