Talk:Skanderbeg's Macedonian campaign

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First sentence[edit]

According to WP:LEDE:

The article should begin with a declarative sentence telling the nonspecialist reader what (or who) is the subject. If possible, the page title should be the subject of the first sentence.

--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 21:55, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Any secondary sources about three Ottoman armies defeated by Skanderbeg in August 1462?[edit]

Are there any secondary sources about three Ottoman armies defeated by Skanderbeg in August 1462? The only source used to support information about three Ottoman armies defeated by Skanderbeg in August 1462 is primary source (Franco). According to WP:RS: "Material based purely on primary sources should be avoided."

--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:32, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Livad or Livada?[edit]

Is Livad a village Livada near Struga?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:35, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Title[edit]

I assume that the term Macedonia as part of this campaign is clearly wp:OR. So far I can't see any reference that labels this campaign as such.Alexikoua (talk) 13:23, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I don't think there are reliable sources for any campaign at all. The only source for he body of the article is Demetrio Franco.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:09, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many (if not most) other Skanderbeg's battles took place on the territory of northern Macedonia:

Battle of Torvioll - north of Peshkopi which belong to Macedonia and was ceded to Albania in 20th century in exchange for Ohrid islands and monasteries
Battle of Mokra (1445) - today in Makedonski Brod, Macedonia
Battle of Otonetë - Upper Debar, modern-day Macedonia
Battle of Oranik (1448) - Oranik (Debar in modern day Macedonia)
Siege of Svetigrad (1448) - Svetigrad, now Kodžadžik, a village in the Republic of Macedonia
Siege of Krujë (1450) - Northern part of the Sanjak of Albania
Battle of Modrič - a village in Struga Municipality, in the Republic of Macedonia
Battle of Meçad near Oranik in Upper Dibra (modern day Debar in Macedonia)
Battle of Polog - Polog, near Tetovo, (modern day Macedonia)
Siege of Berat (1455) - Albania
Battle of Oranik (1456) - Plains of Oranik (Debar in modern day Macedonia)
Battle of Albulena - Albania
Battle of Mokra (July 1462) - Mokra, Macedonia
Battle of Pollog - 1462 - Polog, near Tetovo, (modern day Macedonia)
Battle of Livad - Macedonia
Battle of Ohrid - Macedonia
Battle of Vaikal - near Ohrid (present-day Republic of Macedonia)
Battle of Meçad (1465) - near Oranik in Upper Dibra (modern day Debar in Macedonia)
Battle of Vaikal - near Ohrid (present-day Republic of Macedonia)
Battle of Kashari - Albania (if this battle ever happened, the only source is 15-th century work of Franco
Siege of Krujë (1466–67) - Albania
Siege of Krujë (1467) - Albania

So, 5 of 22 battles of Skanderbeg found in the Template:Campaignbox Ottoman–Albanian Wars only 5 took place in Albania and 17 in Macedonia. Since almost all of Skanderbeg's battles were in Macedonia, picking three of them without any sources to present them as some kind of Macedonian campaign is incorrect.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:38, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]