Talk:Australia Day debate

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Article name?[edit]

I suspect a more generic name for this article would be better fitting. Any thoughts/suggestions? thorpewilliam (talk) 10:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Independence day[edit]

Would be worth to mention that an independence day would be estabilished once Australia decides to break the sovereignty of the British monarch? 159.196.134.79 (talk) 10:15, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, because that is speculation. See WP:CRYSTALBALL. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:51, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whose opinion do we include?[edit]

Anyone who has one?

I've just had a difference of opinion with another editor on this matter. We need some standards here. I don't think we should include minor people such as a city councillor. Nor should publicity seeking extremists get their views in the article. HiLo48 (talk) 10:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have to come back to this tomorrow, but after having a quick scan through the "Political responses" section, first impressions: get rid of anything that is not related to a government in power, major opposition figure, bill before parliament, or councils, except a brief mention of the one that led Morrison to the federal government depriving the councils of their powers to hold citizenship ceremonies, and perhaps just in one sentence mention a few councils who have opposed it (with refs but without details). Mention of Henry Pike's bill could be made with decent refs, such as Hansard (although I doubt it'll go anywhere), and PLEASE no bare URLs! Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. HiLo48 Postponed owing to busyness in real life. Maybe tomorrow (or longer), but also looking forward to hearing others' views on this. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:48, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

La lopi - Sorry, should have invited you here before. HiLo48 (talk) 22:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've shuffled and condensed the section. See what you think. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:12, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's good. In my view, there's probably still too much there, but I won't push for any further change now. Thanks. HiLo48 (talk) 10:46, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I trimmed it a bit further, but until/unless there are more important things to add there, it's hard to know what else could be dropped. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 00:53, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merchandise, Woolworths etc[edit]

Please see discussion at Talk:Australia_Day#Merchandise,_Woolworths_etc. Mitch Ames (talk) 00:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

– [1] Mitch Ames (talk) 12:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Australia day public holiday - 1994?[edit]

The current article states that Australia Day has been a public holiday since 1994. However, the Australia Day Wikipedia page states that Australia Day on 26 January has been a public holiday since the 1940 - although it did vary between states due to the desire to have a long weekend. Uniformity was achieved in 1988. All of these points have references in the main Australia Day article. I don't see a reference for the 1994 date.

I think the reference to Australia Day commencing in 1994 needs to be changed. 163.53.144.99 (talk) 00:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Contemporary celebrations section of the Australia Day article says "in 1994 all states and territories began to celebrate a unified public holiday on 26 January – regardless of the day of the week – for the first time." It is sourced to the Australia Day official website - australiaday.com.au - but unfortunately that source doesn't seem to go into that level of detail about the dates. I suspect it may once have done so. I have now found a BBC source that says the same thing, and have added that to the article. HiLo48 (talk) 03:49, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the Australia Day article it states

"In 1988 the date was fixed in all jurisdictions on 26 January when the practice by some states of holding the holiday on a Friday in late January for a long weekend was dropped."

A reference to Australiaday.org.au is provided.

If I understand correctly, the Australia Day article and the Australia Day Debate article now appear to be inconsistent with each other - one says 1988 and the other says 1994. Or is there a nuance here that I haven't picked up on? 163.53.144.99 (talk) 09:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That sentence in the Australia Day article was wrong. I have fixed it. HiLo48 (talk) 09:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]