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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Admins will not be able to unblock themselves if they are blocked by someone other than themselves. This is because it can cause damage if someone else takes over an admin account and other admins can't block them. If this is a problem for your community you can report it on Phabricator. You can also ask questions on Meta. There is a discussion on Phabricator about how to solve this if two admins fight with each other on a small wiki. [1]
- Small SVG images are now bigger when you see them in MediaViewer. [2]
- You can go to a section from the edit summary by clicking on the section name. Before this you had to click on the arrow. [3]
- When you jumped to a footnote that was referenced several times in an article it could be difficult to see where you were in the text. Now there are jump marks and highlights to help you find your way back. [4][5]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 December at 16:00 (UTC) and at 23:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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16:12, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Category:Chegwin family has been nominated for discussion
Category:Chegwin family, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 14:05, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of Brotherhood (upcoming film) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Brotherhood (upcoming film) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brotherhood (upcoming film) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Bearcat (talk) 22:51, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Dennis Albaugh
On 9 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dennis Albaugh, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Dennis Albaugh's collection of about 150 classic Chevrolet convertibles includes all Tri-Fives (1957 Bel Air pictured) and models from 1912 to 1975? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dennis Albaugh. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Dennis Albaugh), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Alex Shih (talk) 12:01, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 December. It will be on all wikis from 13 December (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- New accounts will need passwords that are at least 8 characters long. Admins, interface admins, bureaucrats, oversighters, CentralNotice admins, global renamers, check users, stewards and some other user groups will need passwords that are at least 10 characters long. This is because an attacker could cause damage to the wikis if they took over these accounts. [6][7]
- When you hover over a footnote it will show you the reference as a pop-up. This is so you don't have to jump down to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will happen in 2019. Some wikis already have gadgets that do this. You will be able to turn it off. [8]
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17:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: November 2018
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DYK for Susanna Dinnage
On 13 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Susanna Dinnage, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Susanna Dinnage is expected to become the first female chief executive of the English Premier League early next year? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Susanna Dinnage. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Susanna Dinnage), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
Hello Edwardx,
- Reviewer of the Year
This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
- Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.
See also the list of top 100 reviewers.
- Less good news, and an appeal for some help
The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
- Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019
At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.
- Training video
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 7 January 2019.
Recent changes
- Some templates that show notices about the content of the page will now be shown on the mobile website. In many cases they were hidden before. [9][10]
- Admins can no longer unblock themselves, except for self-blocks. A blocked admin can block the user who blocked them but no one else. This is so no one can block all admins on a wiki without being stopped. [11]
- The ParserMigration extension has been removed. It compared the result of two versions of the MediaWiki wikitext parsing pipeline. It was used when we moved to the Remex parsing library instead of Tidy.
Problems
<ref>tags can use parameters such as "name" or "group". For example<ref name="adams" group="books">. If a<ref>tag has more than two parameters all parameters are ignored. You don't get a warning that they don't work. This will soon be fixed. [12]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 December. It will be on all wikis from 20 December (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation Android app team are working on making it easier to edit on mobile phones. You can read more about these plans. If you have an Android phone and speak at least two languages you can help testing in English. Tell Dchen (WMF) you want to be part of the testing by writing on her talk page or email her.
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tiles.wmflabs.organdwma.wmflabs.orgwill stop working. They have no maintainers and run an old operating system. Tools which use it could stop working. This includes the mapnik gadget, hill shading, and hike and bike layers. New maintainers could help out and keep it going. [13]
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20:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
St Hilda's Principals
Hi, thanks for your messages, I have been trying to develop the articles on the principals of St Hilda's, but I don't have a subscription to the ODNB, so I was wondering whether you would be interested in adding exact dates of death for Esther Elizabeth Burrows and Christine Burrows? I have added all the other birth and death dates to the table of principals in the St Hilda's article. Also I have corrected the reference for Christine Burrows to refer to her own ODNB article.TSventon (talk) 12:58, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- @TSventon: I have to go out for the day, but will try to look later or tomorrow. If you are in the UK, you can usually access the ODNB by using your local council library card number - that is all that I do. Edwardx (talk) 13:14, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion, I checked yesterday and my library does not subscribe to ODNB so I can't use my card number to access the articles.TSventon (talk) 11:14, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- @TSventon: I am member of multiple libraries in London; each offers different benefits. I have added full dates for Esther Elizabeth Burrows and will look at her daughter. Edwardx (talk) 01:08, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Christine Burrows done too. Edwardx (talk) 01:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion, I checked yesterday and my library does not subscribe to ODNB so I can't use my card number to access the articles.TSventon (talk) 11:14, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
The article Enid Graham has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Slashme (talk) 14:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of Enid Graham for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Enid Graham is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enid Graham until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:59, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Books & Bytes, Issue 31
The Wikipedia Library
Books & Bytes
Issue 31, October – Novemeber 2018
- OAWiki
- Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
- Global branches update
- Bytes in brief
French version of Books & Bytes is now available on meta!
Read the full newsletter
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January 2019 at Women in Red
 January events:
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DYK for Joseph Jagger
On 22 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joseph Jagger, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Joseph Jagger broke the bank at Monte Carlo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph Jagger. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Joseph Jagger), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Best wishes
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The Signpost: 24 December 2018
- From the editors: Where to draw the line in reporting?
- News and notes: Some wishes do come true
- In the media: Political hijinks
- Discussion report: A new record low for RfA
- WikiProject report: Articlegenesis
- Arbitration report: Year ends with one active case
- Traffic report: Queen dethroned by U.S. presidents
- Gallery: Sun and Moon, water and stone
- Blog: News from the WMF
- Humour: I believe in Bigfoot
- Essay: Requests for medication
- From the archives: Compromised admin accounts – again
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019! |
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WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.6
Newsletter Nr 6, 2018-12-25, for WikiProject Genealogy (and Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
 Participation: This is the sixth newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Wikipedia:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise. (To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please see below) Now 100 supportersAt 3 December 2018, the list of users who support the potential Wikimedia genealogy project, reached 100! A demo wiki is up and running!You can already now try out the demo for a genealogy wiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki/Main_Page and try out the functions. You will find parts of the 18th Pharao dynasty and other records submitted by the 7 first users, and it would be great if you would add some records. And with those great news we want to wish you a creative New Year 2019!
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Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018
Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018
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Mayling Ng listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Mayling Ng. Since you had some involvement with the Mayling Ng redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. JesseRafe (talk) 17:28, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Loch Maree Hotel botulism poisoning
On 4 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Loch Maree Hotel botulism poisoning, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Loch Maree Hotel botulism poisoning of 1922 was the first recorded outbreak of botulism in the United Kingdom? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Loch Maree Hotel botulism poisoning. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Loch Maree Hotel botulism poisoning), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
The article Susan Hooper has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Notability questioned a few weeks ago, no reply.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. PatGallacher (talk) 15:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.
Recent changes
- RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata. [14]
- MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment. [15]
- codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code. [16]
- On several wikis, an account named "Edit filter" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.
Problems
- In AbuseFilter, the "Throttle" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them. [17]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).
Meetings
- Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.
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18:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: December 2018
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool. [18][19]
- You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
- Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text. [20][21]
- Templates with <templatestyles> could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. <templatestyles> has a new
wrapperparameter now. You can use it for selectors like.mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>. [22]
Problems
- When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed. [23]
Changes later this week
- You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
- Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [24]
- The AbuseFilter variable
minor_edithas been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter. - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15
17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Question
Dear Edwardx,
I have written an article about the photographer George Daniell, which is not publicised, because of some wrong quotations. In my last version I have considered your and Dianaa’s advices. What can I do now, that the article can be published on Wikipedia?
Best Regards
ReikeW — Preceding unsigned comment added by ReikeW (talk • contribs) 06:44, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- Some people did not get last week's issue of Tech News. This was because of a problem with MassMessage. If you did not get last week's issue, you can read it on Meta. [25]
Recent changes
- The content translation tool can now use version 2 as the default version for users who turned on the beta feature. For example it adds the tracking category
Pages with unreviewed translationsto translations that might have used machine translations without fixing the problems. This is so others can find them. You can find this category inSpecial:TrackingCategorieson Wikipedias. - https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org can now convert collects of up to 800 pages to PDF, EPUB or ODT. Previously this was 200 pages.
Problems
- When a template was edited with the visual editor, it would sometimes put all information on one line. This makes it difficult to read for editors who use the wikitext editor. It also makes it more difficult to see what happened in a diff. This problem affected edits made between 8 and 17 January and is now fixed. [26]
- MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone. [27][28]
- Because of a database problem that had to be fixed immediately you could not edit most wikis for a couple of minutes on 17 January (UTC). This has now been fixed. [29]
Changes later this week
- You will be able to use template styles in the
Modulenamespace. [30] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 January. It will be on all wikis from 24 January (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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20:35, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
The article Rakesh Kapoor has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Non-notable person, sources are trivial.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:39, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
February 2019 at Women in Red
 February events:
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Category:Harvard Business School alumni
Dear Edwardx
Thank you for your edits. You removed an AMPer from the Harvard Business School Alumni category. The AMP program is not a 6 week program, its a 13 week program which is highly competitive to be accepted. AMPers are given HBS Alumni Status. See HBS Alumni Assoication bylaws. The Advanced Management Program (AMP) and the Advanced Management Program/International Senior Mangement Program (AMP/ISMP) are current HBS Programs that are granted Alumni Status.
HBS has also honored a number of AMP for Alumni Achievement Awards. In addition, The HBS Alumni Bulletin, has a whole section dedicated to AMPers. Any AMPer can be found in the HBS Alumni website using the alumni directory search function.
- To allow a wider discussion, it would be better if you raised your concerns at Talk:Harvard_Business_School#Harvard_Business_School_alumni. Just because HBS allows people who have paid $82,000 for the 6/7 week AMP to consider themselves part of the "alumni network", it does not mean that we should include them in our alumni category. And note the careful wording that HBS have chosen - they are not saying that people who have attended a 6-week course actually are HBS alumni! For 2019, AMPs run from Sunday 31 March to Thursday 16 May, and Sunday 8 September to Thursday 24 October. That is 6 to 7 weeks. Some time ago, the AMP may have been spread over 13 weeks, but not for some years. And unlike the two-year full-time MBA, it is not "highly competitive". Edwardx (talk) 11:38, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Ajay Piramal
Hi, I had made an edit to this page and added Harvard Business School to his alma mater. You say that it's a six week program, which it is but it gives you alumni status of HBS. Please see this link below - https://www.exed.hbs.edu/advanced-management-program/?&utm_campaign=IN%20-%20Brand%20-%20CLP&utm_medium=SEM&utm_source=google&utm_term=+harvard%20+advanced%20+management&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjMSqtcLc3wIVQyUrCh25BQ0IEAAYAiAAEgJXlvD_BwE Please understand that Wikipedia is taken very seriously by people all over the world and facts can twist important career aspirations of people. I am in no way connected to this man but still find myself standing up for this issue. Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 20:36, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Nuttyprofessor2016 Perhaps we can consider a more nuanced approach for articles such as Ajay Piramal. Just because HBS allows people who have paid $73,000 for the 6-week AMP to consider themselves part of the "alumni network", it does not mean that we should include them in our alumni category. And note the careful wording that HBS have chosen - they are not saying that people who have attended a 6-week course actually are HBS alumni! Please see the discussion at Talk:Harvard_Business_School#Harvard_Business_School_alumni, where you might prefer to comment if you want to reach a wider audience. 21:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prompt reply Edward, what is the verdict on people who have dropped out of colleges in that case? Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Mukesh Ambani are all drop outs of big universities. What happens to them on Wikipedia? If a university has you on their alumni list, shouldn't that be good enough?Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 21:17, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- No, receiving a degree makes you an alumnus. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:07, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- For sales and marketing purposes, universities may well wish to include the names of anyone famous who studied there, however briefly. Wikipedia has its own rules, which need to be applied consistently across all of our articles, regardless of the practices of any individual university, college or school. Edwardx (talk) 22:25, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- I see our own article is more equivocal than me, nonetheless, I don't see how the public would understand six weeks as making someone an alumnus. As you say. it's obvious what is going on there. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- (talk) - You are wrong about alumnus being only those that got their degree, a lot of people have spent a lot of time in universities and didn't graduate but they are considered alumnus. Got the fact that Wikipedia has it's own rules. Thanks.:) Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 12:21, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Nuttyprofessor2016: Then we are going to need to add to each article where this applies "X paid $73,000 to attend a 6-week course at Harvard Business School for which there are no academic entry requirements and which did not include any examination or confer a degree" in order not to mislead the reader. To which articles have you added the alumni category please? Philafrenzy (talk) 13:50, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, so I just removed "drop out" from the info-box of Mukesh Ambani. He went to Stanford and didn't graduate but was enrolled in the MBA programme there. I followed the trends of all drop outs and did this. Another thing, there is an academic admission programme for these courses and it could be how far they have come in their careers and Harvard being a renowned college has taken this up seriously. I am a beginner on Wiki but believe that if a University makes someone an alum, they are an alum. Lot of people from these programmes actually give back to these universities. Each alum is proud to be associated with their respective university and receives correspondence and invitations regularly. Alumni level courses are not a joke and are transformative. That is my humble submission. Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 15:44, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- I noticed that Harvard University has been removed from Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and I just want to point out that they have been conferred with honorary degrees/doctorates from Harvard and were drop outs from degree courses, I think it should be reinstated with "dropped out" ahead of their alma mater. Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 10:22, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Nuttyprofessor2016: To allow others to more easily contribute, I have responded at Talk:Harvard_Business_School#Harvard_Business_School_alumni. Edwardx (talk) 11:39, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- I noticed that Harvard University has been removed from Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and I just want to point out that they have been conferred with honorary degrees/doctorates from Harvard and were drop outs from degree courses, I think it should be reinstated with "dropped out" ahead of their alma mater. Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 10:22, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, so I just removed "drop out" from the info-box of Mukesh Ambani. He went to Stanford and didn't graduate but was enrolled in the MBA programme there. I followed the trends of all drop outs and did this. Another thing, there is an academic admission programme for these courses and it could be how far they have come in their careers and Harvard being a renowned college has taken this up seriously. I am a beginner on Wiki but believe that if a University makes someone an alum, they are an alum. Lot of people from these programmes actually give back to these universities. Each alum is proud to be associated with their respective university and receives correspondence and invitations regularly. Alumni level courses are not a joke and are transformative. That is my humble submission. Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 15:44, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Nuttyprofessor2016: Then we are going to need to add to each article where this applies "X paid $73,000 to attend a 6-week course at Harvard Business School for which there are no academic entry requirements and which did not include any examination or confer a degree" in order not to mislead the reader. To which articles have you added the alumni category please? Philafrenzy (talk) 13:50, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- (talk) - You are wrong about alumnus being only those that got their degree, a lot of people have spent a lot of time in universities and didn't graduate but they are considered alumnus. Got the fact that Wikipedia has it's own rules. Thanks.:) Nuttyprofessor2016 (talk) 12:21, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- I see our own article is more equivocal than me, nonetheless, I don't see how the public would understand six weeks as making someone an alumnus. As you say. it's obvious what is going on there. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- For sales and marketing purposes, universities may well wish to include the names of anyone famous who studied there, however briefly. Wikipedia has its own rules, which need to be applied consistently across all of our articles, regardless of the practices of any individual university, college or school. Edwardx (talk) 22:25, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- No, receiving a degree makes you an alumnus. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:07, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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