Talk:PACE trial

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Usage of content from other pages[edit]

Significant parts of this page are reused from the controversy section of the management of ME/CFS page, which will be heavily shortened after this page is published, due to being WP:Undue YannLK (talk) 13:52, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback[edit]

Great work so far. I would add the following:

Explain the strenghts of the trial a bit better, for instance using this Wiltshire et al paper. It's true that sources are generally negative, but I think we are slightly more negative that the average source on the topic.
Make sure your citations direclty support your statement. Do not cite the original study to support statements that criticise it. The original study did not say explicitly that some people met the SF-36 criterion for recovery upon study entry (I've replaced this with a critique instead). Similarly, page 3 of the Cochrane review does not explicitly say they rely mostly on White 2011.

—Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Femke. I now have addressed both points.

1) I added a paragraph in the study design subsection of the initial study and findings section which goes over the study’s strengths (large sample size, extended duration etc.). Additionally I have added a paragraph to the reanalysis subsection of the controversy and criticism section which goes over the reanalyses with more nuance, for example explaining that some subjective outcome measures did still see an improvement in GET and CBT groups.

2) As for the sources, I reread the article and double checked sources I thought would be at risk of not fully supporting sentences. I found some cases like these, and in these cases, I either changed the sentences to better match the sources used or found novel sources which supported the sentences. As for the specific point on Cochrane, I decided to change from “largely based on the PACE trial” to “partially based …” because that seemed to fit the source better based on a reread.

I am now going to submit the article for review. Thank you for your help so far. YannLK (talk) 14:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Health research authority[edit]

The report from the HRA should be added. https://www.parliament.uk/globalassets/documents/commons-committees/science-technology/Correspondence/190129-Sir-Jonathan-Montgomery-Health-Research-Authority-to-Chair-re-PACE-trial.pdf BlenFans (talk) 04:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also see https://www.proquest.com/openview/50b7d9b4a5b9693a1d6342d89aea95a3/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=2043523 BlenFans (talk) 04:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now added. BlenFans (talk) 20:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]