[WikiEN-l] User banned, why?

Jesse Alter jra3 at njit.edu
Thu Feb 6 04:16:30 UTC 2003


Hey, I'm new to the list, and I hope to keep up a bit. The main reason I 
subscribed was to talk about User:VeraCruz/Lir. I've been speaking to 
them on and off of Wikipedia, and they seem like a nice person. We've 
been speaking about various topics, and when advising me about 
Wikipedia, he's taught me a lot about empiricism and NPOV. I've read 
some articles he has contributed a lot to...

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kuwait
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis_auxiliary_cruiser
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Mayhew_Wainwright_IV

...and I've been fairly impressed. I asked him if he could help me with 
a stub article I started, about Moulay Ismail, the Bloodthirsty. I had 
been unable to find much information on him, but over an IM conversation...

Him: are u talking about the prince of saudi arabia?
Him: or the sultan?
Me: This is a 17th century dude.
Him: associated with Louis XIV ?
Him: asked to marry the Princess of Conti?
Him: did he have 800 children/
Him: he ordered that the heads of 10,000 slain enemies adorn the walls 
of the two great imperial capitals, Fes and Marrakech.
Him: heh us hould include this conversation where i find info for u as 
an example of how useful i am
Him: Moulay Ismail enlisted over 25,000 Christian prisoners and 30,000 
common criminals to build his pretentious city, and brought over 16,000 
slaves from sub-Saharan Africa to serve in his military machine. By the 
time of his death in 1727, the Black Guard, as it was known, had grown 
tenfold and was one of the largest death guards in Morocco's history.
Me: 800 children..
Me: Yeah.
Me: Geez man.
Him: His grandson, Mohammed III, moved the capital back to Marrakech
Him: most of Ismail's great monuments are still standing
Him: Most of the fanciest tile work and wealth were stripped from Meknes 
and used to build up other imperial cities

and he also gave me a LOT of helpful links. *groan* I need to synthesize 
all of that information later...

I understand there were disagreements with other users. This is of 
course bound to happen, and Wikipedia boasts its ability to resolve 
those sorts of conflicts through its Talk page. This user is obviously 
someone who has the potential to be a great contributor to Wikipedia. I 
see no reason for him to be banned.

Thanks,

cprompt




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