[WikiEN-l] Re: Challenge to Sheldon Rampton re: global warming

Sat Feb 1 15:48:46 UTC 2003

Actually, anthropogenic warming is NOT a fact, it is only a theory, and not a
very well-established one at that. The IPCC studies get a lot of play, but they
are by no means definitive, and the models used to demonstrate the point are by
no means perfect. Global warming is well-established, other claims to the
contrary, and few people studying this dispute that significant warming is
actually happening. However, there are pretty significant weaknesses in the
models that predict warming from anthropogenic sources, like their failure to
accurately predict warming rates. There's a case to be made that anthropogenic
sources of warming are important, but I wouldn't call it a "fact" yet, like I
would say that something like relativity or Coulomb's law is a "fact". 

Anyway, this is getting way off-topic for this mailing list and belongs on
[[Talk:Global warming]], where it can actually do some good.

Saurabh (Graft)

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In message <BA6147AE.6726%cunctator at kband.com>, The Cunctator said:
>On 2/1/03 2:09 AM, "Jonathan Walther" <krooger at debian.org> wrote:
>
>> I have to rise to Ed's defense.  I have only seen Ed trying to make sure
>> all sides of the story are represented.  Presenting global warming as a
>> scientifically proven "fact" is disengenous, dishonest, and unethical.
>> It is a popular theory, yes.  But it is also a controversial one.  I
>> have every confidence in Ed's neutrality.
>> 
>Anthropogenic global warming, by the standard scientific definition of
>"fact", is a fact.
>
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