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Model hatnote

A third opinion would be appreciated at Talk:Model#Hatnote. Certes (talk) 21:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

A fourth opinion would be useful too! A tenacious editor has a firm opinion on why our normal hatnote practices should not apply to that article. If they're right then I'd appreciate someone explaining the reasons more clearly. Certes (talk) 12:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Robert Carroll / Bob Carroll

Would it be appropriate to merge the Robert Carroll and Bob Carroll disambiguation pages?

There is at least one entry (Bobby Carroll) perhaps legitimately on both; and a couple others (Robert L. Carroll, Robert Todd Carroll) on both that perhaps should be only on one.

By way of comparison, James Lovell (disambiguation) includes both Jims and Jameses; Michael Collins includes Michaels, Mikes, and Micks. Sticking within the Robert/Bob world, Robert Blake and Robert Green (disambiguation) lump Roberts, Bobs, Robbies and Robs together; but on the other hand, Robert Hill and Bobby Hill are distinct DAB pages. TJRC (talk) 22:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I would leave them as they are. Although all the Bobs are named Robert (possibly excepting the actor/singer), it seems more likely they would be sought by readers under Bob and would therefore be easier to find on a dab page devoted to Bobs. Robert L. Carroll and Robert Todd Carroll were both sometimes also known as Bob, so should be on both pages. Bobby Carroll is an unambiguous title with no evidence he was called Bob, so should probably just be a See Also on each page. I don't think there's any strong consensus about one way or the other, though. Station1 (talk) 01:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I agree with the "sought by readers under Bob" bit, but the merged-from page would be a redirect to the merged-to page, so those doing the seeking would land on the appropriate page in any event. Not arguing for the merge, just giving my line of thinking. TJRC (talk) 01:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

True, they would land on the appropriate page, but my thinking is that it's slightly easier to peruse the four Bobs in a row on the Bob Carroll page than 11 mixed Bobs, Roberts and Bobby on a merged page. The difference is very minor in cases with a moderate number of names, like this, so I don't think it makes a great deal of difference, but it might in longer lists. Station1 (talk) 02:49, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I'll leave it be, then. Thanks for the discussion. TJRC (talk) 19:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Searching for "Blagger" currently redirects to a page with no mention of the word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Blagger&redirect=no seems weird that it doesn't link or disambig to Blagger (video game). Not sure how to mark a page for "Disambig page needed". Oathed (talk) 20:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

"Blagging" refers to a social engineering technique ([1]), and at the time the redirect was placed, that was reflected in the Social engineering (security) article.

My own view is that Blagger (video game) should be moved to Blagger (there appears to be no other article called "Blagger", so the disambiguation parenthetical is not needed), optionally with a {{about}} hatnote along the lines of {{about||the social engineering technique|Social engineering (security)}} (assuming the "blagging" information is added to that article, which seems appropriate). TJRC (talk) 20:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

@TJRC while you were writing that comment, I've nominated the redirect for discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 18#Blagger. I agree the video game seems the primary topic.

@Oathed in general if you think a redirect should be replaced by a disambiguation page, you can just overwrite the redirect with the disambiguation page. If you aren't sure or aren't able to do that yourself for some reason then the best thing to do is to nominate the redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. If no page exists and you don't want to/aren't able to create one yourself you can request a disambig at Wikipedia:Requested articles. Thryduulf (talk) 20:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

What to do about this one?

Aliu is a DAB, but (after considerable work finding all of those people!) find that it only seems to be used as a name, and in its capitalised form as an acronym. I was going to go ahead and create a name set index page, but then realised that would only leave those two entries, distinguished by case only. Is there any kind of rule about what to do in this instance? Or, alternatively, what would you prefer to see? Or just let it be and forget about it? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

My first thought is make Aliu the name set index and use a hatnote to link to the acronym usage. Redirect ALIU to the expansion of the acronym and add a hatnote to the name page from there. Thryduulf (talk) 10:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Actually seeing ALIU was red, I've created it as a redirect to Art Looting Investigation Unit and added the hatnote, although the wording of the latter could probably be improved. Thryduulf (talk) 10:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

@Thryduulf Looks good. I was thinking on the same lines. PamD 11:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Though the target article of ALIU needed a bit of attention! Had a ludicrously long "short" description, and the lead gave no clue which country had set it up. Now tweaked. PamD 11:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Thryduulf and PamD. I think I'd better remove the capitalised version and convert the DAB page into a set index one now. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh, it was already, but I just moved the ALIU into See alsos and changed the wording at the top to read that Aliu is a name. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Move 'Pratapsingh'?

i guess Pratapsingh page could be moved to Pratap Singh. becuase Pratap is First Nameand Singh is Middle or Last Name. there should be a space between these two (?) KuldeepBurjBhalaike ^(Talk) 03:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

It looks as if we have duplicate dab pages Pratapsingh and Pratap Singh. I don't know which title is more appropriate. PamD 04:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I have now redirected Pratapsingh to Pratap Singh, which has much higher pageviews, removed duplicate entries, added missing dates, and sorted the list into chronological order as more likely to help the reader where there are so many variations of spelling/spacing. PamD 09:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Corporate America

Corporate America claims to be a dab page, but other than the album (where there's currently a move request), none of the bluelinks lead to anything that mentions the phrase "Corporate America". It does get more hits than one might expect, though, about 40 per day. Should the page be deleted, or if not, what should be done with it? Station1 (talk) 05:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)