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Amendment request: Conduct in deletion-related editing

Initiated by Cunard at 05:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Case or decision affected
Conduct in deletion-related editing arbitration case (t) (ev / t) (w / t) (pd / t)
Clauses to which an amendment is requested
  1. Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct in deletion-related editing#TenPoundHammer topic banned (1)


List of any users involved or directly affected, and confirmation that all are aware of the request
Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
Information about amendment request


Statement by Cunard

Previous discussions

This was previously discussed in an amendment request closed on 20 April 2024 and on Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests.

Background

Before the 2 August 2022 deletion topic ban, TenPoundHammer nominated numerous articles for proposed deletion and articles for deletion. He also redirected numerous articles in 2022. This link shows the last 500 redirects he did before the 2 August 2022 topic ban. If you search for the text "Tags: New redirect Reverted" on the page, there are 189 results. At least 189 of the redirects he did between April 2022 and July 2022 were reverted.

TenPoundHammer resumed the actions that led me to create Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1101#TenPoundHammer: prods and AfDs, which was closed as "This matter has been escalated to the arbitration committee, which has opened a full case at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct in deletion-related editing on this and other related matters" and is cited as "June 2022 ANI" in this finding of fact.

Evidence

I started a talk page discussion with TenPoundHammer on 2 March 2024 about TenPoundHammer's blanking and redirecting of Monkey-ed Movies (link), Skating's Next Star (link), Monkey Life (link), 2 Minute Drill (game show) (link), and Monsters We Met (link) for lacking sources. I was able to find sources for these articles so reverted the redirects and added the sources. I asked TenPoundHammer to stop blanking and redirecting articles as it was leading to notable topics no longer having articles.

TenPoundHammer continued to redirect articles on notable topics. Between 11 March 2024 and 16 March 2024, TenPoundHammer redirected 18 articles. Of those 18 articles, 14 were about television series (a topic I focus on): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14. After spending many hours searching for sources, I reverted all 14 redirects and added sources to all 14 articles. For several of the topics (such as Queer Eye for the Straight Girl and Dice: Undisputed), sources could be easily found with a Google search.

Between 20 March 2024 and 21 March 2024, TenPoundHammer redirected three book articles (another topic I focus on): 1, 2, and 3. I reverted the three redirects and added book reviews.

Between 20 March 2024 and 21 March 2024, TenPoundHammer redirected 33 articles. Almost all of those redirects are in the music topic area which I do not focus on. I am concerned about the large number of redirects of topics that could be notable.

On 12 April 2024, TenPoundHammer redirected the television show Las Vegas Garden of Love with the edit summary "unsourced since 2010, time to lose it". I found sources for the article and reverted the redirect. I found two of the sources (The New York Times and Variety) on the first page of a Google search for "Las Vegas Garden of Love ABC". TenPoundHammer previously prodded this same article in May 2022, and another editor contested that prodding ("contest PROD, nom nominated 200 articles in a single day so it's impossible a BEFORE was done for each").

Analysis

Wikipedia:Fait accompli is an applicable principle. Reviewing this volume of redirects consumes substantial editor time. The redirects are leading to numerous notable topics no longer having articles. The redirects prevent the topics from undergoing community review at AfD, which TenPoundHammer is topic banned from.

Blank-and-redirects get significantly less attention than prods and AfDs. Television-related prods and AfDs are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Television and Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Article alerts. But blank-and-redirects are not listed anywhere.

It is unclear to me whether the existing topic ban includes proposing articles for deletion. I recommend that the topic ban be expanded to prohibit both proposing articles for deletion and blanking and redirecting pages since there is previous disruptive editing in both areas where he has prodded or redirected a large number of articles about notable topics. This remedy does something similar for a different editor in the same arbitration case.

Here are quotes from three arbitrators about the topic ban in the 2022 proposed decision regarding the redirects and and proposed deletion:

  1. "... This TBAN also fails to remedy the issues that appear to be evident with the use of redirects (see Artw's evidence for examples)." (link)

    "... Missing PROD was not intentional on my part but that also can be added." (link)

  2. "First choice, and my interpretation is that this should extend to PROD, given the evidence, even though it seems like a stretch to call most PRODs a discussion. ..." (link)
  3. "First choice, extend to PROD." (link)

Cunard (talk) 05:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by TenPoundHammer

Statement by Username

Statement by Star Mississippi

I am Involved here. TPH and I came up together on this project and occasionally ran into one another on country talk pages although it has been some time since we substantively interacted. I also have the utmost respect for Cunard's research at AfD in that they not only say "sources exist" but find and annotate them for participants to assess. This is especially helpful personally in east Asian language sourcing. That said, Cunard's case here is strong. TPH sees it as their duty to clean up the project, but I don't think their strong feelings are backed by our policies, nor is there a pressing need to remove this content. The project will not collapse and these are mostly not BLPs. If they are, someone else can handle it. I believe TPH's topic ban should be expanded to include BLAR which is a form of deletion. I have no strong feelings on PROD personally. Star Mississippi 01:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by {other-editor}

Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the amendment request or provide additional information.

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Nicoljaus

Blocked indefinitely, first year covered under AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Request concerning Nicoljaus

User who is submitting this request for enforcement
Selfstudier (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 15:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User against whom enforcement is requested
Nicoljaus (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced
Arbpia/CT
Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
  1. Diff 1 Revision as of 14:20, 23 April 2024
  2. Diff 2 Latest revision as of 14:45, 23 April 2024


Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
  1. ARBPEE tban (2021)
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Additional comments by editor filing complaint

When requested to self revert, commented "Oh, I'm so sorry. I need to bring in this area a couple of friends to make reverts instead ne.".

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Notified

Discussion concerning Nicoljaus

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Statement by Nicoljaus

Statement by BilledMammal

There’s a 1RR violation here that needs to be reverted, but there also appears to be a lot of recent edit warring by all parties in the article.

I’m also concerned by the removal of sources that were used as evidence of WP:SIGCOV in the recent AFD on the grounds of unreliability - either they are usable or they are not, you can’t have it both ways. BilledMammal (talk) 15:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Result concerning Nicoljaus

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  • Based on their block log for CTOP violations, edit warring, and this gem I have blocked indefinitely, the first year as an AE action. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Anonimu

Topic ban modified to post-2000 Russia/Ukraine relations. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:21, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

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Appealing user
Anonimu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)Anonimu (talk) 17:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sanction being appealed
Broad topic ban from the subject of Eastern European topics, imposed at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive303#Anonimu, reconfirmed 2 days later at, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive304#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Anonimu, and logged at Wikipedia:Arbitration_enforcement_log/2022#Eastern_Europe
Administrator imposing the sanction
El_C (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
Notification of that administrator
diff

Statement by Anonimu

More than 2 years have passed since the ban was enacted. I am fully aware that my behaviour then was far from encouraging civil and productive discussion of the content in a highly contentious topic (Russian-Ukrainian war), and I am sorry for that. My plan was to wait for the war to end before appealing the topic ban, unfortunately it is dragging on with seemingly no perspective of peace. Due to lack of sources/interest in other topic areas, as well as the broadness of the topic ban, in the past two years my editing was mostly restricted to fixing some issues and adding some content related to areas that could not possibly be considered as connected to Eastern Europe. I think that restricting the area of the topic ban would allow me to come back to more productive editing. Thus, if you consider that the topic ban cannot be completely overturned, restricting the topic ban to modern Russian-Ukrainian relations (say, after 2000) would still serve as a remedy to the original situation, while not preventing me from using the knowledge and sources I have in order to improve Wikipedia content related to other areas of Eastern Europe. Thank you. Anonimu (talk) 17:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • El_C: I was a bit confused about the procedure, considering the first failed appeal. I am impartial about which way to finalize this appeal procedure. As mentioned in my initial statement, I am fine with any result that allows me to contribute to articles regarding Eastern Europe not related to the current Russian-Ukrainian conflict. Anonimu (talk) 10:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by El_C

  • This appeal lists a previously failed appeal, but not the original enforcement action. El_C 17:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • No objection on narrowing the scope on my part. El_C 19:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Anonimu, since this a sanction originally imposed by me, I can just implement the change you proposed immediately, unless you'd rather go through the appeal process and let someone else close it (likely with the same outcome). So let me know what you prefer. El_C 23:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Anonimu, since it's not a clear yes from you, I'll let the appeal run its course, and let someone else close it and enter the changes into the log. El_C 13:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by tgeorgescu

Anonimu can be an useful editor. I don't say this because I like his POV, but because he can act as a counterweight to Romanian nationalist POV-pushers. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (involved editor 1)

Statement by (involved editor 2)

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Anonimu

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Result of the appeal by Anonimu

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  • I'm generally favorable to a loosening of sanctions. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm going to give this another day to see if there is any further input and if there's no objection close this with an adjustment to a topic ban on post-2000 Russia/Ukraine relations, unless El_C feels like amending it now. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:18, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Crampcomes

Crampcomes blocked for one week for edit warring/1RR violations, and topic banned for six months for misrepresenting sources. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:09, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Request concerning Crampcomes

User who is submitting this request for enforcement
AP 499D25 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 02:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User against whom enforcement is requested
Crampcomes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced
Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles#ARBPIA General Sanctions
Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
  1. 23:25, 21 April 2024 (UTC) 1st revert within 24 hours
  2. 06:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC) 2nd revert within 24 hours
Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

(none)

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Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Talk page discussion has been attempted by the other involved editor (User:Mistamystery) here, but it has not been responded to.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

diff on User talk:Crampcomes

Discussion concerning Crampcomes

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Statement by Crampcomes

Bringing this case here is totally against Wikipedia:Assume good faith policy. I already explained myself here. It's been two days and I haven't edited the article in question since then. BTW, I was the one who created that article in the firstplace.[1] Nonetheless, I will repeat: The article, which I created recently, has recently been the target of multiple vandalisms [2][3], then user Mistamystery removed mass sourced content and linked articles through both IP and account [4] [5] and became the first person to violate the 1RR rule after the article was extended confirmed protected (it was extended confirmed protected very recently). Please note that I have no interest in keeping or removing the content and I was not the first editor to revert user Mistamystery' removal of the content in question[6]. (another very experienced editor first reverted him) I asked user Mistamystery to discuss on talkpage before making mass removals[7], but he refused[8]. He at some later time put a vague note on the talkpage without pinging or notifying me about it anywhere not even in edit summaries.Crampcomes (talk) 07:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sorry for replying late, very busy with work today. I created that article recently and it became the target of persistent IP vandalisms e.g.[9][10], all of which were reverted by other editors. Then IP removed this exact same chunk for which I am being accused of edit warring, but IP was reverted by an experienced editor who asked the IP to explain removal on talkpage[11]. I was not edit warring, I just repeated what that experienced editor said: to explain on talkpage, but the IP editor when editing through account flatly refused[12]. That statement had two linked articles Siege of Khan Yunis and Battle of Beit Hanoun, and both seemed to support what was stated. I concur it was my mistake for not actually checking the sources and just blindly believing in another experienced Wikipedia editor seemingly fighting vandalisms.
    [13] Crampcomes (talk) 20:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (@Selfstudier) It's highly likely. Crampcomes (talk) 20:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    BilledMammal really has no clue about what he's saying. I added this info with source:"According to CNN, the attack by Iran was "planned to minimize casualties while maximizing spectacle", and noted that Iranian drones and missiles went past Jordan and Iraq, both with US military bases, and all the air defenses before penetrating the airspace of Israel.[1]" And it's still in the article Crampcomes (talk) 20:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Selfstudier

@Crampcomes: Something confusing me a bit, are u saying that the IP in this diff is the (original) complainant (ie Mistamystery)? Selfstudier (talk) 13:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by BilledMammal

There was also an edit warring/1RR issue at 2024 Iranian strikes in Israel:

  1. 20:54, 14 April 2024
  2. 20:17, 14 April 2024
  3. 19:33, 14 April 2024
  4. 17:23, 14 April 2024
  5. 17:01, 14 April 2024

They sought to include the claim that Iranian missiles went past "all the air defences" of Israel's allies - a claim that doesn't appear aligned with the source, which says "Israel’s allies helped shoot down the bulk of these weapons". They also at one pointed added the claim that "According to CNN it was an Iranian operational success" (17:23); again, this doesn't appear aligned with the source. 13:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Crampcomes

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  • Did anyone give Crampcomes a chance to self-revert before filing this report? Also, Crampcomes, I'm less than impressed with your edit warring over clearly NPOV material that does not match the sourcing. Can you explain how the source you cited saying The government's decision to withdraw the maneuvering forces from Gaza and switch to ongoing defense proves that the IDF was able to bring Israel many achievements and victories in the military arena and undermine Hamas' capabilities.[14] turned into By April 2024, Hamas was able to expel Israel from southern Gaza? There is plain source misrepresentation going on here. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm thinking a one week block for the edit warring, and a 6 month topic ban for source misrepresentation/NPOV issues. If there is no other admin input in a day or so I'll implement that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I concur. This has also been reported at ANEW, and I was ready to block when I saw a thread had been opened up here (it didn’t needto be IMO, but it’s here now so we play it as it lays) Daniel Case (talk) 19:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Iran's attack seemed planned to minimize casualties while maximizing spectacle". CNN. 14 April 2024. Archived from the original on 14 April 2024. Retrieved 14 April 2024.

Christsos

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Request concerning Christsos

User who is submitting this request for enforcement
Pppery (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 04:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User against whom enforcement is requested
Christsos (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced
Wikipedia:ARBPIA4 extended-confirmed restriction
Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
  1. Created Faiq Al-Mabhouh
  2. Created Ibrahim Biari (deleted by me as G4)
  3. Created Draft:Eyal Shuminov

All of these are very obviously related to the conflict

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  • Alerted about discretionary sanctions or contentious topics in the area of conflict, on 19:37, 20 April 2024 (UTC) (see the system log linked to above).[reply]
Additional comments by editor filing complaint
Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

User talk:Christsos#Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion


Discussion concerning Christsos

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Statement by Christsos

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Christsos

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  • Christsos, if you have anything to say, now would be the time. It looks like all of these happened after you were explicitly left a contentious topics notice informing you of the 30/500 restrictions, so can you please explain why you are clearly violating that? I'll give you a short while to explain, but otherwise I'm very much leaning toward a sanction. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:06, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm on the same page. They haven't edited in a couple days so there's no immediate need to step in. We can wait to see if there's a decent response. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Entropyandvodka

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Request concerning Entropyandvodka

User who is submitting this request for enforcement
BilledMammal (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 19:33, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User against whom enforcement is requested
Entropyandvodka (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced
Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles#ARBPIA General Sanctions
Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

WP:1RR violations and 1RR gaming at Israeli war crimes:

  1. 02:22, 21 April 2024 (said that Israel had committed genocide → found that Israel had committed genocide)
  2. 07:05, 21 April 2024 (said that Israel had committed genocide → finding reasonable grounds that Israel had committed genocide)
    Was requested to self revert at 07:51, 21 April 2024. Did so at 22:58, 21 April 2024, saying Self reverting per request, as that edit can be considered a revert. Will be putting that material back in later tonight for the same reasons.
  3. 06:18, 22 April 2024 (said that Israel had committed genocide → found Israel was committing genocide)

I don't know whether 06:18 is a second 1RR violation, but it is gaming of 1RR and seeing 1RR as an allowance, rather than a hard limit - reimplementing a reverted violation 23 hours after initially implementing it and seven hours after reverting it is not aligned with our expectations regarding self-reverting violations.

I requested they re-self-revert; they have refused to do so, and are now arguing that 07:05, 21 April 2024 was not a revert.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics)
  • Alerted about discretionary sanctions or contentious topics in the area of conflict, on 5:10, 13 October 2023 (see the system log linked to above).
Additional comments by editor filing complaint

There's a few other recent 1RR violations (for example, 02:21, 9 April 2024 and 16:46, 8 April 2024), but no recent gaming as far as I can tell.

The issue with this one, though, is how blatant it is; they didn't wait 24 hours to revert back to their preferred version after self-reverting, they waited just seven - if we don't consider the time the between making the violating revert (07:05) and self-reverting the violation (22:58) it means they reverted back to their preferred version just twelve hours after initially reverting to their preferred version.

If this is permissible, then that means editors who wait 24 hours from their first revert to self revert would be permitted to revert back immediately after self reverting, making the restriction considerably less effective at preventing edit warring and disruption. 22:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

19:31, 28 April 2024

Discussion concerning Entropyandvodka

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Statement by Entropyandvodka

This is misleading. While edit 1 was a revert, edits 2 and 3 were not reverts, per the guidelines in WP:Reverting. The paragraph in all versions contains the proposition that Francesca Albanese said (or stated) that Israel had committed or was committing genocide, providing her exact quote. Edits 2 and 3 didn't change this. They added additional propositions (she submitted a report, the findings/conclusion of the report). The term 'found' here refers to the findings/conclusions contained in her submitted report, which was passingly referenced in the initial version before BilledMammal's later-reverted edit. BilledMammal's edit essentially just made the same explicit proposition twice in two consecutive sentences. Edits 2 and 3 fall into the classification of examples provided in WP:Reverting as 'A normal change, not a reversion' as they add additional propositions without removing any. Boiling down the propositions in the differences, we have:

Edit before BilledMammal edit: She found X. She said X

BilledMammal edit (before the reversion) She said X. She said X.

Edits 2 and 3 (not reversions) She submitted report X, which found/concluded X. She said X.

I'd point out briefly here that the initial version, before and after BilledMammal's reverted edit, did warrant revision, as it referred to the findings/conclusion of a report without explicitly mentioning the report. I now think BilledMammal was right to make that initial edit, and I was wrong to simply revert it, as that original form of the sentence with no additional information would go against MOS:SAID. Edit 1, the revert I did make of BilledMammal's edit, failed to address this issue, but the subsequent edits 2 and 3 addressed this, without information/proposition loss. Edit 3 was a slightly clearer version of edit 2.

After edit 2, in which I first added the additional material, BilledMammal accused me of violating 1RR. I self-reverted when requested to, in the spirit of collaboration, though didn't agree that adding that material constituted a revert, and ultimately added it later in edit 3. All the material is RS-backed, and provides informative and relevant context. If I'm correct that edits 2 and 3 don't constitute reversions, then there's no 1RR violation. If I believed edit 2 or edit 3 constituted a revert, I wouldn't have made either edit.

On my talk page, I attempted multiple times to engage with BilledMammal about the substance of the issue, sought feedback, asking how BilledMammal wanted to write it to add the additional material. BilledMammal repeatedly refused to engage much about the topic, showed no interest in seeking consensus, instead accusing me of a 1RR violation and demanding I self-revert to BilledMammal's version. BilledMammal then threatened arbitration if I didn't comply. I made a good faith attempt to show to BilledMammal why I believe edits 2 and 3 don't constitute reverts, and offered two more suggestions to reach an inclusive consensus. BilledMammal did not respond to these suggestions.

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Result concerning Entropyandvodka

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  • The self-revert remedied the 1RR violation, and their revert back to their preferred version after 24 hours wasn't great, but was not a 1RR violation. Is there a pattern of 1RR gaming, or just this single example? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Entropyandvodka, those were reverts. Just because you're not using undo, rollback, or a tool like twinkle doesn't mean that modifying the same piece with a slight rewording isn't reverting. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • If this is just a single instance, I would be okay with a logged warning, including a reminder that 1RR is not an entitlement to do another revert at 24 hours and 1 minute from the first. Entropyandvodka, if someone objects to an edit you made, go to the article talk page (not a user talk page), find out why they objected, discuss it with anyone else who participates, and see, by suggesting stuff on talk, if you can address those concerns. If you come to an impasse, dispute resolution is available at that point. But yes, tweaking your edit a little bit and making it again still is reverting, if the edit is still substantially similar to the last one. We have to treat it that way; otherwise there would be no end of gaming with that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Petextrodon

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Request concerning Petextrodon

User who is submitting this request for enforcement
Cossde (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 13:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced
Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Sri Lanka
Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
  1. 26 April 2024 use of a primary source that has been established as a pro-rebel.
  2. 26 April 2024 use of a primary source
  3. 28 April 2024 use of single source the has WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS under WP:EXCEPTIONAL circumstances.
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  • Mentioned by name in the Arbitration Committee's Final Decision linked to above.
Additional comments by editor filing complaint

This page as seen weeks of WP:BATTLEGROUND and possible WP:NAT editing, with controversial content been added with single sources that are most cases primary sources that have clear conflict of intrests and even been labled "pro-rebal". Some other sources with WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS, that makes the content appear WP:OR. Request for more citations per WP:EXCEPTIONAL and WP:CHALLENGE have been refused. Hence I am requesting arbitration to settle this matter by establishing the quality, type and style of citations needed for this artcile.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Petextrodon&diff=prev&oldid=1221697850

Discussion concerning Petextrodon

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Statement by Petextrodon

I don't think the issue is truly about the number of citations which is why user Cossde deleted even the content backed by two RS citations, Human Rights Watch and Routledge scholarly publication. More crucially, Cossde may be guilty of vandalism for repeatedly deleting sourced content [1][2], since no Wikipedia rule states that a content without more than one RS should be removed. Also, the user is well-aware that Wikipedia:WikiProject Sri Lanka Reconciliation/Sources classified the UTHR as RS long ago and recently classified NESOHR as a "Qualified source" that can be cited with attribution. As for Frontline (magazine), that's a mainstream news magazine that any reasonable editor can see meets the criteria of RS. As for Uthayan newspaper, I had repeatedly explained to this user in the talk page that it was a registered and award-winning Sri Lankan newspaper yet they weren't satisfied by this explanation and refused to explain why they questioned its reliability.

Cossde has a long history of deleting reliably sourced content [1][2][3] that are critical of the Sri Lankan government and its armed forces. To me this looks like WP:nationalist editing, especially given the blatant double standards this user has shown regarding the use of sources on multiple occasions:

They did not address their blatant double standards despite my repeated requests to do so in the talk page. It would appear from this to any reasonable observer that Cossde is more bothered by the nature of the content than the reliability of the sources. I hope the admins review the reporter's own behavior so the vandalism issue can be sorted and I wouldn't have to open a separate enforcement request against this user. --- Petextrodon (talk) 15:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (Pharaoh of the Wizards

See no violation this is at best a content dispute which needs to be resolved elsewhere.Further there no CT alerts.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Bookku (Uninvolved)

I don't have detail background but wondering whether really no scope for WP:DDE protocol? and any difficulties to go through WP:RfCs, or RfCs happened but did not mention in above difs? Bookku (talk) 16:44, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Result concerning Petextrodon

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  • Hence I am requesting arbitration to settle this matter by establishing the quality, type and style of citations needed for this artcile. That isn't what arbitration enforcement is for. Have you opened an RFC on the sourcing disagreement? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]