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Image:Dog tooth.jpg[edit]

Image:Dog tooth.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by T-1000 (notify | contribs).

For context, a while ago there was an "Origin" miniseries for the character Wolverine from X-Men. There was a character called "Dog", who some fans thought was Sabretooth. For the record, this miniseries came out around seven-to-six years ago and this speculation has yet to be confirmed. The only reliable source listed was one interview with writer Paul Jenkins, in which he denied the connection in his story, although admitting that another writer could change it.

Anyway, the picture listed is a pasting of two unrelated images side-by-side to show a comparision between the two. The caption on Dog Logan's page states "Sabretooth greatly resembles Dog Logan". As stated before, I think this counts as original research and synthesis of published material to advance a position as any 'resemblance' between the two is in the eyes of the person viewing it and there is no reliable source to back up this particular image. CyberGhostface (talk) 01:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Wikipedia is not saying that Dog is Sabretooth, we are reporting the speculation from the fans. Since the spculation is brought up in a interview, it is realiable sourced and is notable. The picture serves a purpose of letting readers know why such a speculation existed in the first place (Gold Hair and massive build). original research is proposing theories on Wikipedia, reporting theories is not. Wikipedia allows the reporting of theories per Category:Theories T-1000 (talk) 06:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Does the interview bring up the comparision of the gold hair and massive build?--CyberGhostface (talk) 15:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment. Just checked. All the interview says on the matter is "Who knows? In my mind, Dog is not intended to be Sabretooth, but he could be. It doesn’t matter. As long as the next writer respects the character and writes a simple story, anything could happen." That's it.--CyberGhostface (talk) 15:44, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - As per the nom. As for the use of the image... the text and caption are spurious, at best, to the topic of the article. - J Greb (talk) 07:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as above. If we had someone saying "yes they are the same" then perhaps something like this would be justified but the arguement for the link largely starts with the picture. Paul Jenkins has explicitly said they aren't the same person (at the moment) which is really as far as we can go down that line because that is all we can source. (Emperor (talk) 12:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC))[reply]
  • Delete. The image itself has been added only as synthesis to advance an opinion. Otherwise, it serves no Wikipedia-appropriate purpose and therefore violates the policy regarding when it's acceptable to use an image (in this case, a combination of two images) under copyright elsewhere. Doczilla STOMP! 18:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Gallery_Place_Metro_with_sulfur_lamp.jpg[edit]

Image:Gallery_Place_Metro_with_sulfur_lamp.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by SDC (notify | contribs).

Image:Rts_and_sos.jpg[edit]

Image:Rts_and_sos.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Aechols (notify | contribs).

Image:Citybus Euro IV.jpg[edit]

Image:Citybus Euro IV.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Toyotaboy95 (notify | contribs).
  • Delete : Watermarked Image CyclePat (talk) 04:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep: One of the only 'free' images of a Citybus Euro IV in Hong Kong. The only others avaliable are from the Citybus/NWFB website which are NOT free. Also, it is very hard to spot (only operating on 1 special route) unless you go to Hong Kong-Shenzhen Western Corridor. You just don't know the value of these photos because you're NOT in Hong Kong. Toyotaboy95 (talk) 07:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or replace: even if it is 'free', it still shouldn't have a watermark. If an alternative image without the watermark cannot be found, then it's going to have to be removed. --FlyingPenguins (talk) 03:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Gaughin.jpg[edit]

Image:Gaughin.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Gogafax (notify | contribs).

Image:Paul gauguin alyscamps.jpg[edit]

Image:Paul gauguin alyscamps.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Stumps (notify | contribs).

Image:Tudor-styleSmall.jpg[edit]

Image:Tudor-styleSmall.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Infrogmation (notify | contribs).

Image:ZonophoneLabelSmall.png[edit]

Image:ZonophoneLabelSmall.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Infrogmation (notify | contribs).

Image:SFQuakeRefugeesSmall.jpg[edit]

Image:SFQuakeRefugeesSmall.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Infrogmation (notify | contribs).

Image:Clappered small.JPG[edit]

Image:Clappered small.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Anthony (notify | contribs).

Image:Neva--etching-small.jpg[edit]

Image:Neva--etching-small.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Alex756 (notify | contribs).

Image:Trumbull-small.jpg[edit]

Image:Trumbull-small.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Alex756 (notify | contribs).

Image:Us-decl-small.jpg[edit]

Image:Us-decl-small.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by AlexPlank (notify | contribs).

Image:PUTINBAY.jpg[edit]

Image:PUTINBAY.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bunnerabb (notify | contribs).

Image:Vogelweide.jpg[edit]

Image:Vogelweide.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Uri (notify | contribs).

Image:Quagga.jpeg[edit]

Image:Quagga.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Hephaestos (notify | contribs).

Image:AR Fulton William.jpg[edit]

Image:AR Fulton William.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ark30inf (notify | contribs).

Image:AR Conway Henry Wharton.jpg[edit]

Image:AR Conway Henry Wharton.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ark30inf (notify | contribs).

Image:Namakabrud.jpg[edit]

Image:Namakabrud.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Benaro (notify | contribs).
  • Uploader history of copyvio - also Flickr images are not uploaded under the GFDL. Kelly hi! 05:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Justice Kirby.gif[edit]

Image:Justice Kirby.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Peter Ellis (notify | contribs).
  • Is the Replaceable? explanation given for this image valid? Damiens.rf 12:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete - Image is now orphaned, replaced by a free image. Kirby is an exception to this being an advocate for a lot of human rights causes, but I should point out the follow with respect to Australian judges, and the answer to your question is yes - the rationale is valid: Australian judges do not appear in public by convention and taking pictures in courtrooms is illegal and punishable by fines. Although it is perhaps possible that one day someone might be able to take a photo in a conference a judge is giving, it is extremely unlikely, and images of even the High Court can be considered as non-replaceable. I might add that we are not depriving anyone of copyright royalties by publishing judges' photos as they are publicly distributed and available images made by the Australian Government. We have no photos available for judges' articles without this image either. JRG (talk) 14:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"...it is perhaps possible that one day someone might be able to take a photo..." - I thought this was the whole point of this "replaceable" thing... --Damiens.rf 14:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No it's not. There is a recognised exception for those who do not appear in public. Judges should come under this. JRG (talk) 00:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think that exception is just for Osamas and the like. Using it for judges is a little over the top. --Damiens.rf 22:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rubbish - you obviously do not understand the situation. JRG (talk) 00:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as replaceable fair use. Kelly hi! 01:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Iris kyle.jpg[edit]

Image:Iris kyle.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Walliser (notify | contribs).

Image:Ashraf Kamal UN Interpreter GAspokespersonRodsan18a.jpg[edit]

Image:Ashraf Kamal UN Interpreter GAspokespersonRodsan18a.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rodsan18 (notify | contribs).

Image:Lynn Visson UN Interpreter Rodsan18a.jpg[edit]

Image:Lynn Visson UN Interpreter Rodsan18a.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rodsan18 (notify | contribs).

Image:TuanLiDianaLiaoChiefInterpreterUNHQNY.jpg[edit]

Image:TuanLiDianaLiaoChiefInterpreterUNHQNY.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rodsan18 (notify | contribs).

Image:ElenaHowardChiefInterpreterUNHQ.JPG[edit]

Image:ElenaHowardChiefInterpreterUNHQ.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rodsan18 (notify | contribs).

Image:2197602661_fd1f54d2d9.jpg[edit]

Image:2197602661_fd1f54d2d9.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Maanoo (notify | contribs).
  • Orphaned, unverifiable license. Kelly hi! 15:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Greenhousegassource.gif [edit]

Image:Greenhousegassource.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Pakato (notify | contribs).
  • Putative graph of geophysical data, but no source for data is given. The graph doesn't even make physical sense, because it mixes up concentrations, rates of emissions, and supposed contributions to the greenhouse effect (to the extent that it can be understood at all). Raymond Arritt (talk) 16:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was 

Keep.  If the image is replaced, tag this as unused nonfree and it'll get speedied.  Until then, there doesn't seem to be much contestation of this being valid fair use. WilyD 16:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Portal_screenshot.jpg[edit]

Image:Portal_screenshot.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Gazimoff (notify | contribs).
  • The Orange Box#Reception does not discuss gameplay to the extent of requiring copyrighted material to depict it. The article for Portal already provides critical commentary and appropriate illustrations, this image would be superflous to that purpose as well. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 16:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -Portal was the suprise favorite from the bundle of games included in The Orange Box and won awards for it's unique puzzle structure, amongst many other criteria. As such it is felt that such an important component of The Orange Box should be depicted with an image demonstrating these award-winning gameplay elements. Many thanks, Gazimoff WriteRead 17:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - this image was brought in because some FAC reviewers deemed it useful to depict each game in the article. Perhaps the image fair use needs changing, but the image should not be deleted. -- Sabre (talk) 17:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Image is required to illustrate the "unique puzzle gameplay mechanics" and why it was considered to be a "major advance in puzzle gaming," as both quotes are from the section in which the image appears. The only screenshot from the Portal article (clarification: Image:Portalgame.jpg) is not useful because the image contains too many elements (companion cube, hearts, doors, etc.), which require a level of explanation that would be excessive in The Orange Box article, not to mention inappropriate in the "Reception" section. All the elements in the Portal article's image also distract from the main element that needs to be illustrated: the portals. God forbid Wikipedia should have two screenshots from an award-winning game! This deletion proposal is brought under criterion 8 of the Non-free content criteria, specifically, the second clause, which is currently contentious and disputed. So much for, "I generally try to limit myself to obvious copyright violations," eh, Thor? clicketyclickyaketyyak 17:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I would argue that this being determined to be OK during FAC would be a sign that it really is OK. That said, a better caption could be added...one that describes what's happening in-game. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 08:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Why is this screenshot used when Image:Portalgame.jpg can serve the same purpose? Either one or the other should be deleted. Jappalang (talk) 20:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, I think Image:Portalgame.jpg does a better job. User:Krator (t c) 09:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Image:Rhea true color.jpg[edit]

Image:Rhea true color.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Matt McIrvin (notify | contribs).
  • The same image with the same name is in Commons. The image is used, but if it will be deleted, pages will use image from Commons (due to the same filename) — Chesnok (talk) 17:29, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sent it off to speedy with {{ncd}} --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Mamerto R. Cruz 5.jpg[edit]

Image:Mamerto R. Cruz 5.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Vierko9590 (notify | contribs).
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