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Salam Alaikum,

Recently submitted my first article on the Islamic Academia subsection of Islamic Philosophy. I submitted a page for a philosopher who is rising in fame and recognition in the Muslim community quite significantly, he was originally a PhD student of Abdal Hakim Murad and a close friend of his. Now he has gained significant affect in Islamic philosophy dialogues. I didn't find many reviewers in this niche save you, so was wondering if you could take a look!

Many thanks! Cogitarus (talk) 21:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Wa alaykums salam, @Cogitarus. The only thing that can help is what has been summarised at WP:42, and it is, "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" so that they meet the general notability guideline, our article inclusion guidelines. This page delves into several unique and individual notability criterias for different types of people and it would be beneficial for you to go through it. I also suggest you to look around and see works about him, rather than works by him. These may include peer-reviewed articles, reliable news resources, in-print or online, languages don't matter, that significantly discuss him. Best regards, ─ Aafī (talk) 06:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Hmm. I added multiple sources that mention him and fulfill some of these criteria however I am a bit curious as almost every page I look at concerning muslim figures fulfill a similar level of sources. Take a look at for instance the page of Faraz Rabbani or Jonathan A. C. Brown both seem to cite little known tabloids and even their own articles. Am I missing something here? Cogitarus (talk) 11:58, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@Cogitarus If something exists in a bad condition, is not a valid reason for making a new bad thing. Improvements should be made to existing articles that have remained in such a condition. Nice articles around the subject that you can look up to are Mahmud Hasan Deobandi (a Good Article), and others such as Taha Karaan and Ebrahim Desai, among many others. The reason that a vast majority of article related to Muslim figures exist in a terrible state is very simple one, and it is that not many people are here who have interest in these topics. I hope this makes sense. ─ Aafī (talk) 13:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

I understand that of course, I was just wondering whether the fact that they possibly do not reach the threshold of notability but are never really revoked is strange. How do they get approved as they are if not by an approved reviewer?

Also thank you for the examples, are there any of living people? Cogitarus (talk) 00:29, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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