Talk:Surcoat

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(todo: Find an image of knight wearing a surcoat; need something on the female medieval surcoat)

Is it not totally contrary to logic to illustrate a medieval article of clothing by means of a nineteenth century picture. I'll try to find a contemporary pic, but we'd be better off with nothing at all rather than a pre-Raphaelite pre-concept of what he thought a surcoat should/may have looked like. Please will "todos" try to do the same. Thanks. Nick Michael 15:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's not even a surcoat. That's a tabard. I have also removed the link http://members.aol.com/dargolyt/TheForge/surcoat.html from the page as this page references a historically incorrect website created with the purpose of illustrating the DragonRealms role-playing game. Definitely not a scholarly citation. --SunWuKong 01:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a nice pic I think, rather hedging my bets on Sir On-the-right in the caption. But I think both garments could fairly be called surcoats.

I'm rather dubious about the remaining external link which shows a "robe royale" , a "cotehardie" and various other gowns, but nothing that would I think normally be called a surcoat by costume historians. Johnbod 02:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]