Talk:List of Gintama episodes

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Color-Coding Episodes[edit]

I've noticed that someone has added color coding to the episode guide, with half of it determined by seasons and others by "story arcs". I do understand the importance of keeping together certain longer story arcs (Benizakura, Yagyuu, Itou), but some of the arcs with color codings really aren't that long or not counted as part of it. (the two episode "Mitsuba" arc is coded, but the three episodes regarding Gin's memory isn't) Do you think we maybe can find a standard or maybe just color code by season without differentiating the big arcs? -StrangerAtaru (talk) 13:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- RE: Color-Coding Episodes --

That sounds like a good idea to me, as I sometimes get confused by the different colours (and, as you said, some arcs are coded whereas other sequential episodes- the sequence of which is longer- are not).

Although, are you suggesting that there's- for example- a uniform colour for long/serious arcs, a uniform colour for long/light-hearted arcs (etc.), or are you suggesting that there simply be a key provided...?

EDIT: Something like this, in terms of a key?

Colour-coding key
Season no./Arc name Episode numbers Colour-code
Season 1 Episodes 1-25
Season 2 Episodes 26-50
Season 3 Episodes 51-75
Season 4 Episodes 100-
Arc: Umibouzu Episodes 40-42
Arc: Benizakura Episodes 58-61
Arc: Android Episodes 69-71
Arc: Kyubei Episodes 76-81
Arc: Mitsuba Episodes 86-87
Arc: Itou Episodes 101-105
Arc: Ryugu-jo Episodes 115~

Apathy Irath (talk)

Splits should be done along seasonal lines, not "arcs".-- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 13:26, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, the colors should be removed in their current form. The chapter numbers should also be removed from the table Dandy Sephy (talk) 15:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you do that ? Please can you put them back again... What enables you to destroy other people work??? It is just stupid —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.69.61.11 (talk) 16:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did it because it's neither necessary nor required. If you are looking for a fansite go elsewhere, wikipedia isn't it. Instead, it's following the quality example set by dozens of featured lists Dandy Sephy (talk) 17:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I too like the old format, i know it's not so formal but at least it helps many people who access this page to know more about the origin of manga, isn't the purpose of wikipedia to help people and provide as many information as possible? If it's possible, please restore it. Kaitoein (talk) 16:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite, the information has to be verifiable from reliable sources. Identifying arcs, and making comparisons to the manga is Original research.Dandy Sephy (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stating which chapters each episode is based upon shouldn't be removed. By doing so the usefulness of the page at least to most readers will removed. 86.153.31.126 (talk) 16:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, they shouldn't be added in the first place, and it has nothing to do with fanboys wanting to know. The specific chapters episodes are based on are neither required or appropriate. None of our many featured lists do it, so there is no reason for this one to. This is not a fan site or comparison between the anime and manga, it's a list of anime episodes. There is no need to show what specific chapters they are adapted from. Dandy Sephy (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is ridiculous, put the chapter numbers back up! The reason the other lists may or may not have them is because the Gintama anime does not follow the manga chapter order chronologically or in a spesific pattern, but have switched and messed around with the order, other than with chapters containing spesific arcs, contrary to most other well-known anime. This has nothing to do with fansites or fanboys, but sheer common sense. How many requests do you need to see that putting the chapter numbers up will only prove helpful and provide information to the public. If you think taking them down is "helping", then maybe you shouldn't be editing articles at all, Dandy Sephy. And I have no idea where you get the comparison issue from, as it is only a means to see which episodes are derived from which subsequent chapters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.188.207 (talk) 05:04, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Common sense is following wikipedias rules and guidelines such as wp:OR. I can edit articles because I know what is acceptable content because I know wikipedias policys and guidelines. It doesn't matter if the show changes things, it's not appropriate to include such comparisons in the table. This is a episode list, not a comparison table, and self research has no place here. Dandy Sephy (talk) 07:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone is searching for the right episode list as it was defore Dandy Sephy destroyed it, here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Gin_Tama_episodes&oldid=281036504 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.69.61.160 (talk) 19:01, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Destroyed? The episodes summaries and other stuff are divided in seasons for easier navigation.Tintor2 (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List improvements[edit]

I have started splitting the list into seasons, as indicated by the episodes themselves (thankfully the show makes this easy by highlighting it for us). The rest of the list should be broken up in a similar style. In addition, the inappropriate coloring needs removing, and the indicator for what chapter the episode was based on should be removed. It's not part of the template because it's unnecessary.

Additionally the episode summaries are not only basic, but many are just badly written. New episodes should have more detailed summaries - what happens rather then a one sentance description of the basic plot. Older episodes may be best waiting until the dvds are released in english, but could also be done via the Crunchyroll streaming too (the old eps are being uploaded as well). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dandy Sephy (talk • contribs) 16:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've went ahead and split the list into its season sublists. The break between the first and second seasons didn't make sense as the seasons appear to go from the first Thursday in April to the last Thursday in March. This coincides with the OP and ED changes as well. I'm cleaning up the double episodes. --Farix (Talk) 19:00, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You beat me to the punch, I was going to do this tommorow! As for airdates, thats due to the ep count surely?. 50 episodes, and the first broadcast was 2 episodes. Dandy Sephy (talk) 19:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You can always do List of Dragon Ball Z episodes in its place ;), though it will require a trick to work properly. Something like |MainList={{{1|List of Dragon Ball Z episodes}}}. That will allow you to override the parameter for the second transclusion on List of Dragon Ball episodes, for example {{:List of Dragon Ball Z episodes (Season 1)|List of Dragon Ball episodes}}. --Farix (Talk) 21:13, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, no I don't touch DBZ articles, and have another series to do anyway :P Dandy Sephy (talk) 21:17, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sgt. Frog? That is the next biggest episode list that needs to be split, and with the multi-part template now able to handle sublisting, it should be ready. Then I think it is Yu-Gi-Oh!, Ojamajo Doremi, Urusei Yatsura (largely incomplete), Zatch Bell!, and the original Dragon Ball. --Farix (Talk) 22:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes, Sgt Frog is a total mess, I really don't have the patience. UY's incompleteness is actually my fault for not finishing it :p I've got plenty of existing work already, please don't try to get me to take on more :p Dandy Sephy (talk) 22:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Season 5?[edit]

Season 5 is out on April 2011, do it!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.17.247 (talk) 01:47, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not season 5. Gintama ended in season 4. What started is " Gintama' ".Tintor2 (talk) 02:07, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Technically, you're right on, Tintor2. However, my doubts are that List of Gintama' episodes would survive the test to remain a standalone article, particularly with regard to Context. (Heck, I question whether or not the search function will distinguish properly between "Gintama" and "Gintama'.") The episode numbering schematic I've seen with some sites (Crunchyroll among others) disregards the apostrophe, instead regarding the returned series as Season Five and the first episode of said season to be Episode 202. Frankly, I'm half-tempted to get the table set for Season 5, ask for forgiveness for so plunging forward (it's a Wikitravel habit, I swear), and then putting said split up for vote. Note, however, that said temptation is only a half of one. I know better than that. I will be a gracious Wikipedian. Jpatch (talk) 14:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The same happens with other shows such Naruto Shippuden with start since episode 221 following the original series. However, in all the other releases (DVDs, English dubs) the numbers start from 1. Moreover, this article is now named List of Gintama episodes, which means it only covers episodes from the first series. I would create a "List of Gintama' episodes" article, there is still not enough material for it have rather than just one episode. Wouldn't it be a stub? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 15:09, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I'm misunderstanding your comment, your argument hinges on an example of the opposite: The consensus (outside of Wikipedia) with the releases, it would seem, was restarting the numbering with Naruto Shippuden, so the List of episodes articles were split. Meanwhile, there is no consensus with the numbering for Gintama/Gintama', therefore we've stalled on going one way or the other. Thankfully, I'm glad that this discussing is being had now, when the content being missed out on is nominal. However, I stand by the Season 5 argument, adding TV Tokyo's handling of the show title to my defense: they seem not to distinguish the new series as 銀魂’, but simply 銀魂. Is anyone other than AnimeNewsNetwork handling it with the apostrophe? Jpatch (talk) 16:30, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
TV Tokyo and Sunrise actually use apostrophe as seen in the logos. The Naruto Shippuden was not splitted from any list considering they are different anime series just like Gintama and Gintama'.Tintor2 (talk) 16:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Internal inconsistencies, as well?! This is the point at which I whip my hair back and forth, directly in the path of the keyboard.
Tell you what, the worst case scenario is that later evidence proves one of us wrong. We can go ahead and start the List of Gintama' episodes article, and if we get enough input in the future to say more definitely one way or another, the worst-case scenario is that we merge the two articles. That said, it looks like creating a list of episodes page the right way is a bit more complicated than a simple table. Have you some experience in this? Jpatch (talk) 17:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I created two or three episode lists in the past like List of X episodes and it seems unencylcopedic placing a Gintama' as a season from Gintama. However, I guess we would need a third opinion about it since I'm unsure whether it would be okay despite still having only two episodes for now.Tintor2 (talk) 00:00, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the use of " ' ", I see no possible issues considering it actually works in searching wikipedia such 'Round Midnight (song).Tintor2 (talk) 16:18, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Wasn't certain on this point, at least. Jpatch (talk) 16:30, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It might violate WP:Trademarks as the ' is unpronounced. However, as a disambig, it might be acceptable to ignore that rule. I would however not create it until its released to make certain the English release will have it.陣内Jinnai 03:11, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I never paid attention to it but in the logo of the opening that came out, they use the ' .Tintor2 (talk) 16:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Had we not had this conversation, I probably wouldn't have noticed it, either.Jpatch (talk) 18:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So, Episode 206 ... (er. ' Episode 5) references the ' directly. I got slack-jawed. From how they make it sound, though, it seems like Tintor2's take on it has some weight, namely that WP:Trademarks might be in effect here. Thoughts? — JPatch ( Talk / ctrb ) 22:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gin Tama vs Gintama[edit]

While we can agree that the official English title of the manga is "Gin Tama" as it is licensed by Viz, shouldn't the anime be called "Gintama" as it is not licensed in English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurprica (talk • contribs) 08:03, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This requires wp:consensus rather than a sudden move to all the article.Tintor2 (talk) 11:29, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It should stay Gin Tama as the episodes are a sublist to the main article. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 19:12, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But shouldn't Gintama''s future list be named "List of Gintama' episodes"?Tintor2 (talk) 00:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 06:32, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually they should List of Gintama episodes since that's how we deal with the issues elsewhere. The manga does not dictate how every spinout article is named and an episode list has almost nothing to due with the manga save that it was the original source (usually).陣内Jinnai 15:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The anime most certainly is licensed in English, under the title "Gintama". I've been watching it on The Anime Network's DirecTV VOD channel for months now. —Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 208.124.88.9 (talk) (what's this?) 19:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Season 6 (Gintama' Enchousen)[edit]

According to Crunchyroll, the new Gintama' Enchousen series that started on October 4 is Season 6 of the whole Gintama series. This seems appropriate as a single season usually contains around 50 episodes. The previous Gintama' season contained 51 episodes, so it'd make sense if Enchousen was Season 6. Can someone edit the article by adding a Season 6 list? Wrath X (talk) 09:17, 9 February 2013

English Dub?[edit]

If the movie can get one, why not the series as well? --MrWii000 (talk) 01:29, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, dubbing a movie takes less budget than more or less 300 episodes. Still, this discussion feels a little like a forum. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:33, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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