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December 16, 2005	Good article nominee	Listed
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December 18, 2006	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
May 7, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
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December 28, 2008	Good article reassessment	Delisted
January 2, 2014	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
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Translation request[edit]

Hello all! I am working on a bio of a Brazilian bad guy and we're not supposed to use auto-translate if avoidable. How would you translate this dissertation title?

Dos sertões ao Atlântico: tráfico ilegal de escravos e comércio lícito em Angola, 1830–1860

Please and thank you and obrigado! jengod (talk) 17:13, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A Brazilian bad guy? I know a few of those, but the good guys outnumber them.;-) My translation would be, "From the Hinterlands to the Atlantic: Illegal Slave Trade and Legal Commerce in Angola, 1830–1860". Not to be a smart-aleck, but "obrigada" is the form used by females. The word you use should match your own gender.;-) Carlstak (talk) 19:22, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Obrigada very much @Carlstak - Manoel Pinto da Fonseca (slave trader) is improved and I learned something too. :) jengod (talk) 19:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work, Jengod. I've added "Manoel Pinto da Fonseca (slave trader)" to my watchlist. Curious to see what you come up with. Carlstak (talk) 19:37, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted edits[edit]

What is the reasoning for this revert, which appears to add useful sourced information and additional images to the article? I do see a concern about MOS:SANDWICH, which is an editorial guideline, but there's no reason given for the rest of the removed information. See also the first paragraph of WP:REVERT#Before reverting. Pinging Chronus, Torimem, Bruce leverett. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 18:01, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I explicitly stated the reason why I removed some images (MOS:SANDWICH). I also added some relevant information, such as adding the municipalities in the lead (which is cited in the article's body + is in the country's constitution), updating and expanding the trasnport section a bit, etc. My edits were promptly reverted with no reason given whatsoever. The least one could do is explain why the edit was reverted. If the issue rests only with the images, then why revert everything? Also, what is the point of editing any article on Wikipedia if everytime one does so the edits are unexplainably reverted on the basis that it violates "the status quo"? This is all I have to say. Torimem (talk) 18:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Torimem@The ed17 I also explicitly stated the reason why I kept the images: "On my screen, there is no "images displacing other images down, away from the corresponding text"." Furthermore, I don't see any "sandwich" that justifies such a drastic removal of the images from the article. Finally, it is simply a lie that the entire edit was reversed, as I replaced some of the content myself. Chronus (talk) 21:09, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chronus: Two questions. First, if your only objection was to the images being moved, why did you revert every one of Torimem's edits (initially without any edit summary) and restore only a small portion of them (in an edit marked as minor and with no edit summary)? That's ... not cool. For the future, I'd really urge you to read through WP:REVERT#Before reverting and take it to heart. Second, you are referring to your personal screen. Did you consider that images may appear differently on different screens? Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 04:15, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First, because I hadn't seen that the content had been added amidst the destruction of the article's illustration through the indiscriminate elimination of images useful to the article. Second, I did not return all the content because the "update" of ethnic groups is not based on census data but on a seasonal survey. Better to wait for the 2022 Census results than to do this kind of thing. Third, you don't know what my "personal screen" is. I tested the layout of the article on a notebook, PCs and cell phones and, still, I didn't see any "sandwich". Chronus (talk) 04:23, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chronus: That's actually less cool than I was already thinking. You reverted eighteen edits—a hour and a half's work—plus two more edits from other editors, all without knowing what you were reverting? I'm going to stop harping on this now, but I really hope you keep this in mind when you revert edits in the future. Edit summaries are important. To the other question, thank you for confirming that you tested on multiple screens.

I'll leave the content question to Torimem, should they still want to engage. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 04:43, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The ed17 Have you ever reverted anything by accident? You don't know me and you don't know my work as an editor to make all this judgment based on a single edit. Furthermore, what you call "a hour and a half's work" was nothing more than the simple addition of a paragraph and the deleting of a series of images. Finally, the content in question was already re-added before this discussion even started and I don't understand what its current purpose is. Chronus (talk) 04:52, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Language[edit]

There has been some misunderstanding, since Brazil speak Spanish, add Spanish to the official languages of Brazilians Mrjack174 (talk) 11:42, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just because people speak Spanish in Brazil does not mean it's an official language there. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{blaze__wolf} 14:30, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some people in the United States can speak Japanese, doesn't mean it's an official language there either... TypoEater (talk) 20:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hy Brasil[edit]

Various Medieval and Renaissance writers wrote of a (Christian) land of wonders and plenty, called Hy Brasil (modulo haphazard spellings). For example, stories about Marco Polo (not necessarily by him) related to his travels meeting a saintly ruler of that land. I don't know if those were influenced by the land whose name roughly approximates the second word of that, or whether European naming of that land was influenced by those myths. But surely some relating of that mythologic pre-history to the reality of the actual land now bearing the name would be worth mentioning. -- Eddy 84.212.132.95 (talk) 23:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Brasil (mythical island)#Etymology. Bruce leverett (talk) 01:51, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2024[edit]

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Ddhotgirl (talk) 00:31, 5 March 2024 (UTC)São Paulo is the largest city in the southern hemisphere. ...[reply]

Brazil has more animal and plant species than any other country in the world. ... Brazil has been the largest producer of coffee for the last 150 years. ... Portuguese is the official language in Brazil. ... Brazil was a Portuguese colony for 322 years.

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 00:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]