1. The current
meta-wiki is dead.
No it is not. Look at the Recent Changes. If you are
missing something
there, start a new page, hope that enough people (able
to
speak the
language you choose)are interrested in the topic, and
see
what happens.
Maybe announce it on one of the mailing lists.
Yes, and doesn't it mean chaning the policy of meta-wiki? I
am the one who advocates it. Meta-wikipedia can be better,
of course.
Actually both of I and you are right and wrong. This is the
exactly same discussion about some say usenet is dead, some
say no usenet has still good stuff and can have.
Saying meta-wikipedia is dead, I don't want to mean
dismissing the motivation of meta-wikipedia. I agree with
the idea that we need the place.
To make my arguments clear, I advocate proposals below.
1. Let's make discussion about policy in its native language
wikipedia. (What if there is no corresponding wikipedia? It
would be a problem. I don't know about such a case)
If a discussion takes place in the meta but it is not in
English, the problem is the same thing. Putting discussion
together really doesn't mean reflecting their voices.
2. Quit sourceforge. Objections?
3. Publishing wiki sourcecode in wiki and make it editable
just like wikipedia articles.
I don't know if this works but we can try. Probably the
first step is publishing "language.php"s and probably sysop
applies them.
Yes, there is a lot of crap. If something really annoys
you, start a
page [[Pages that should be deleted]] and explain it
there
or ask on the
talk page for deletion.
The name meta.wikipedia sounds good to me. Where is
the
problem?
Because if meta is the place for development and
administration, the name like admin, develop should make
more sense. Don't you think?
> 3. Practically meta-wikipedia and maing lists
segregate
the
majoriy of
wikipedians from the decision-making.
So everything should be discussed in the English Wikipedia:-
namespace?
No, no no at all. Discussion about the policy should occur
in the native language.
The majority of users just aren't interrested in
the
software
developement and administration. Everybody who is can
subscribe to our
lists and/or go to meta.
Probably. If meta is the place only for those who are
interested in development and administration, I would like
to participate in meta.