Oliver is Lir II (Re: [Wikipedia-l] This whole Lir and Americanization thing)

Mon Nov 25 00:55:40 UTC 2002

Oliver wrote
> Oh, perhaps I should point out that my agreement
> with the "pronounced
> Paree, you morons" thing was a joke, of course.

Ah, this is too bad, because, well... I thought it was
an interesting proposition...

Not the reference to morons of course :)

But the idea to indicate the native pronounciation of
a name or of a city could be a good one.

Say...some 20 years ago, we were told not to say (and
write) Pékin any more but to replace it with Beijing
(same with Mao Zédong, Jiang Jieshi, Changzhou...).

These changes were strongly enforced in France, maybe
because we were under a socialist/communist
government. It seems we are slowly drifting again
toward Pékin :-)

The fact is that change could not really be said to be
to "look" (read) more like the "real" (native) words,
since it is in no way written that way. What really
mattered was not so much we wrote it that way, but we
*learn to pronounce* it a way that sound more like the
native word.

And maybe is that education also to learn how to
pronounce place names and people names properly ?

And maybe an encyclopedia is JUST the perfect place to
acquire that kind of knowledge. Especially in cases
such as these ones where there is also a nice
historical point to develop.

There's a international code for prononciation no ?
And what about sound later ?

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Annihilation of opposition through body-unification of
dissenting voices ???

I agree with some of Lir points of views, but likely,
I will not be confused with him/her :-)))

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