Hello Daniel,
In the Afd you stated, "the sources presented by the individual editor refuting deletion do not qualify for the GNG threshold. " May I draw your attention on the fact that there are at least two contributors who voted Keep (the second being myself). Also, I concur that bludgeoning in the page was not making it easy to read, but can you confirm that you're not referring to bludgeoning by (the same) one editor only? Regarding this issue, there are times at Afds when sources and K !votes are challenged, so that !voters are forced to insist (and the page is deleted because they haven't....) I understand there's a difference between replying and bludgeoning but when your !votes are challenged constantly and relentlessly, you can either only give up or insist, which may eventually looks like bludgeoning, I'm afraid. @Owenx, who closed as Delete. Anyway, just mentioning this issue for the record. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for missing your bolded !vote, it speaks to the sprawling nature of the AfD that I missed it. I disagree regarding your comments about bludgeoning - I am absolutely talking about the other editor here. Of course engagement in discussion is appreciated, but there is a skill in replying as concisely as possible while being as persuasive as possible, and unfortunately the other editor refuting here missed that brief. They were doing exactly as the first sentence of WP:BLUDGEON says - "attempts to force their point of view through a very high number of comments, such as contradicting every viewpoint that is different from their own". If their viewpoint was so correct and proper, they should have engaged concisely and effectively a couple of times, then let consensus of other editors join in to support their viewpoint. The same editor repeatedly, over numerous comments back at just about every single participant, probably did more to harm their cause then help it here. Obviously if you have issues with the close, please speak to Owen and/or use DRV. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 21:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
